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5 months ago  ::  Jan 02, 2013 - 11:40AM #41
Fireballmage
Date Joined: Mar 21, 2012
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Jan 2, 2013 -- 5:24AM, Qilong wrote:

It's WORSE than Comet Storm and even Fireball BECAUSE it's also Green. As noted above, it is this way to justify being Green. There is no reason Red fireballs cannot hit creatures with flying, and indeed the only conflict is where you have Earthquake vs. Hurricane when it comes to fliers, and this is not a sweeper in that sense. Nothing about this card screams Green, or even suggests it, to the exclusion of being Gruul.



Branching Bolt .

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 02, 2013 - 12:25PM #42
Long_Con
Date Joined: Oct 17, 2010
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I may replace Devil's Play with this in my Jund midrange... The repeatability of Devil's Play is a good game finisher though.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 02, 2013 - 1:01PM #43
Doaj
Date Joined: Jul 6, 2009
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Can be brought back with Revive. This will be a shoe-in for my Gruul Control deck.
Favorite set: Arabian Nights
Favorite planeswalker: Taysir, the One Made of Five
Favorite book cycle: Ice Age
Favorite creature type(s): Elephant (W), Minotaur (R), Shade (B), Spider (G), Cephalid (U) Myr (Artifact)
Standard: Gruul Control
Modern: American Human Tempo; Zombie Tribal
EDH: Aboshan, Cephalid Emperor
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 02, 2013 - 1:09PM #44
Qilong
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Jan 2, 2013 -- 11:40AM, Fireballmage wrote:

Jan 2, 2013 -- 5:24AM, Qilong wrote:

It's WORSE than Comet Storm and even Fireball BECAUSE it's also Green. As noted above, it is this way to justify being Green. There is no reason Red fireballs cannot hit creatures with flying, and indeed the only conflict is where you have Earthquake vs. Hurricane when it comes to fliers, and this is not a sweeper in that sense. Nothing about this card screams Green, or even suggests it, to the exclusion of being Gruul.



Branching Bolt .




You missed the point of my statement. MonoRed covers all the bases when it comes to design here. There is no reason in recent design that red should be restricted to nonfliers, and indeed as previous compared cards have shown, is especially not the case. Green's recent (as of the last three blocks or so) flier hate has revolved around destroying the things outright.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 02, 2013 - 1:48PM #45
Doaj
Date Joined: Jul 6, 2009
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Jan 2, 2013 -- 1:09PM, Qilong wrote:

Jan 2, 2013 -- 11:40AM, Fireballmage wrote:

Jan 2, 2013 -- 5:24AM, Qilong wrote:

It's WORSE than Comet Storm and even Fireball BECAUSE it's also Green. As noted above, it is this way to justify being Green. There is no reason Red fireballs cannot hit creatures with flying, and indeed the only conflict is where you have Earthquake vs. Hurricane when it comes to fliers, and this is not a sweeper in that sense. Nothing about this card screams Green, or even suggests it, to the exclusion of being Gruul.



Branching Bolt .




You missed the point of my statement. MonoRed covers all the bases when it comes to design here. There is no reason in recent design that red should be restricted to nonfliers, and indeed as previous compared cards have shown, is especially not the case. Green's recent (as of the last three blocks or so) flier hate has revolved around destroying the things outright.




Your own example of Earthquake disagrees, as does the M13 Magmaquake .  Red can usually hit flying, but when it does get limitations, it's a limitation on flying creatures.  And the way that Branching Bolt and this card are designed are to specifically hit flying creatures, along with other creatures.  That's the green flavor.  If this was a mono red card, it would say, 'X -Deal X damage to target opponent and a target creature that opponent controls.' The green flavor is hitting the opponent, a non-flier and a flier.

Favorite set: Arabian Nights
Favorite planeswalker: Taysir, the One Made of Five
Favorite book cycle: Ice Age
Favorite creature type(s): Elephant (W), Minotaur (R), Shade (B), Spider (G), Cephalid (U) Myr (Artifact)
Standard: Gruul Control
Modern: American Human Tempo; Zombie Tribal
EDH: Aboshan, Cephalid Emperor
Cube: The Moons of Mirrodin
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 02, 2013 - 1:49PM #46
Esterdi
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Jan 2, 2013 -- 1:09PM, Qilong wrote:

There is no reason in recent design that red should be restricted to nonfliers




Street Spasm

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 02, 2013 - 2:13PM #47
CrazyToast
Date Joined: May 12, 2010
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Great card, good to see some nice rares like this.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 02, 2013 - 2:48PM #48
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Jan 2, 2013 -- 9:13AM, niheloim wrote:

A nice Savage Twister upgrade



More of a "side"grade. They have the same purpose (kill stuff) but one if burn and one is a sweeper.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 02, 2013 - 4:53PM #49
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Jan 2, 2013 -- 1:49PM, Esterdi wrote:

Jan 2, 2013 -- 1:09PM, Qilong wrote:

There is no reason in recent design that red should be restricted to nonfliers




Street Spasm




Rolling Temblor too, basically any Earthquake spin-off.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 03, 2013 - 3:59PM #50
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This could be monored. That said, I can see uses for this with Stuffy Doll and Spiteful Shadows .

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