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5 months ago ::
Jan 01, 2013 - 7:40PM
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Since a flip-card doesn't have the original "MTG" pic on the back like the normal cards do, it exposes the card's creature like "delver of secrets". In a normal draft game where players don't put sleeves on them, we would immediately know if a player has drawn a "flip-card" on his hand, and that would give us an advantage to knowing what he's holding. Wizard obviously knew this was going to happen, so my question here is, for people that play with sleeves, colored ones; not transparent ones. The opponents wouldn't know if a flip-card was on top of the library, but they would have known if there weren't colored sleeves to block their view. So, shouldn't players be required to announce that they have that flip-card as a rule, when it's in their hand, since in a normal game w/o sleeves, everyone would know it already? PS, not a fan of flip cards, they can all be ripped in half; shredded by the shredder, and burnt to a crisp by a pyromaniac~
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5 months ago ::
Jan 01, 2013 - 7:43PM
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Since a flip-card doesn't have the original "MTG" pic on the back like the normal cards do, it exposes the card's creature like "delver of secrets". In a normal draft game where players don't put sleeves on them, we would immediately know if a player has drawn a "flip-card" on his hand, and that would give us an advantage to knowing what he's holding. Wizard obviously knew this was going to happen, so my question here is, for people that play with sleeves, colored ones; not transparent ones. The opponents wouldn't know if a flip-card was on top of the library, but they would have known if there weren't colored sleeves to block their view. So, shouldn't players be required to announce that they have that flip-card as a rule, when it's in their hand, since in a normal game w/o sleeves, everyone would know it already? PS, not a fan of flip cards, they can all be ripped in half; shredded by the shredder, and burnt to a crisp by a pyromaniac~
If you're not using sleeves, the double-sided card is replaced by the checklist card when its not on the battlefield.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 01, 2013 - 7:44PM
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That's what the checklist card included in Innistrad packs are for. You mark which card in represents, then put it in your deck; it has a standard card back.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 01, 2013 - 7:44PM
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If you're not using sleeves, then you should be using one of the checklist cards to represent it while its in the library or hand. Checklist cards have the normal card back.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 02, 2013 - 12:00AM
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Date Joined:
Dec 31, 2012
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or write it on a land you dont use
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5 months ago ::
Jan 02, 2013 - 2:15AM
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Nov 10, 2012
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Since a flip-card doesn't have the original "MTG" pic on the back like the normal cards do, it exposes the card's creature like "delver of secrets". In a normal draft game where players don't put sleeves on them, we would immediately know if a player has drawn a "flip-card" on his hand, and that would give us an advantage to knowing what he's holding. Wizard obviously knew this was going to happen, so my question here is, for people that play with sleeves, colored ones; not transparent ones. The opponents wouldn't know if a flip-card was on top of the library, but they would have known if there weren't colored sleeves to block their view. So, shouldn't players be required to announce that they have that flip-card as a rule, when it's in their hand, since in a normal game w/o sleeves, everyone would know it already? PS, not a fan of flip cards, they can all be ripped in half; shredded by the shredder, and burnt to a crisp by a pyromaniac~
No offence but the card u want ripped in half; shredded by the shredder, and burnt to a crisp by a pyromaniac arent happy about the satement. But seriously wat is bad bout doublesided cards? It gave a whole new diversity to Magic.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 02, 2013 - 8:56AM
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«Dystocracy : A system of government in which corrupt leadership colludes with dishonest bankers and greedy elites in order to ensure that productive members of society –people who actually do useful work- bear the greatest share of taxes while gaining the least benefit possible.»
Sounds familiar?
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