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Jan 2, 2013 -- 9:47AM, Splattercat wrote:

This thread is hilarious to me now because even after reading it, I just did the exact same thing with Jace's Phantasm .

Granted, it was a standoff situation (he had Phantasms, I had Winged Coatl s) where I baited him to block my 3/3 with his 5/5 flyer so I could shrink his 5/5 with Omnibian . Instead it becamse 7/7. I still lost my guy, he didn't lose his, but the overall state of the game didn't change.

Still funny because I've been playing DotP since '09 and Magic in general for almost 2 decades, and it's still so simple an error to make the first time/s you play the deck.

I equipped a sword of body and mind to a mind controlled creature yesterday. It's even more hilarious when you know the rule, because you'll immediately facepalm and feel totally embarassed. It's just easy to forget some aspects, when you're not paying attention.


When you have an effect that turns a creature into a 3/3 and a buff from an ability or counters, you may wonder which applies first. I see that this is confusing to new players and can only be answered by rule knowledge, not logic alone. However, if you're not willing to learn every rule in advance (which is almost impossible), you're always gonna encounter situations that make you wonder. If you keep looking these things up after games, you'll soon have a solid understanding of the game's mechanics that might even be enough for an educated guess in new cases. However, there are so many different interactions, we can't have a thread for everything, not even with such a limited card pool like in dotp. The players need to look this stuff up on demand, not in preparation and they can do so by looking up the rules and asking experienced players.

Jan 4, 2013 -- 1:29AM, falclon wrote:

So - in which cases Omnibian is useful? I mean really useful, like proper 4 mana creature?

Omnibian  has quite a few uses.

1. He is a 4 drop in a deck with very few, so if your worried about your curve then there you go.

2. Because he is blue/green he fully activates Momir Vig, Simic Visionary  and Fable of Wolf and Owl , two of the most important cards in the deck.

3. He can turn "many" troublesome creatures ( Lord of Extinction ) into a much more manageable 3/3 frog. Yes as mentioned before this is foiled by counters but there are still many targets of value.   Griselbrand   Nightmare   Primalcrux   to name just a few.  Anytime my 3/3  Omnibian  can trade with what was a 30/30 Primalcrux  thats pretty useful.

4. He can also turn a lowely 1/1 ( Coiling Oracle )  into a more battle worthy 3/3.

5. He plays extremely well with Murkfiend Liege  due to his mixed color cost  

6. Aside from usefulness Omnibian  is one of the most flavorful cards in the deck and that can be important to some. He screams Simic! 

I am in no way saying he rivals some 4 drops, cough( Phyrexian Obliterator )  but in a deck that loves trickery and mutation I think he has a home especially in 2hg