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5 months ago  ::  Jan 01, 2013 - 1:55PM #11
Decktesting54
Date Joined: Jun 23, 2012
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try rhox faithmender , knight of glory , azorius charm , elite inquisitor , precinct captain , cathedral sanctifier , nearheath pilgrim , divine favor , dramatic rescue , moment of heroism , search warrant , swift justice , terminus , etc..

white has the best answers to aggro decks hands down at the moment, just get anything that gives you life then watch the other player cry as your life total exceeds theirs, also first strike wins matches vs decks like zombies and other aggro decks because their creatures are so laughably weak. terminus is better than supreme verdict, not because of its miracle cost, but rather because it doesn't kill their creatures, it sends them away to the cornfield.

Also try spells like peel from reality , dramatic rescue or  unsummon with your deck, if your using creatures like snapcaster mage , augur of bolas  and restoration angel then you can use it as peusdo impervious wall, just chump block and before damage is dealt unsummon your own creature and you can use his enter the battlefield effect twice. peel from reality is one of those cards that is underutilized in a deck like this because you can block 2 guys with that spell alone (so long as you have a guy on the field), chump block one of their guys then cast peel from reality before damage is dealt and unsummon the other attacker as well.

against slaughter games all I've got to say is tough luck, kill all their creatures with something like supreme verdict or terminus then kill them slowly with something like augur of bolas , not ideal but it works.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 01, 2013 - 2:39PM #12
Weisse
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I advise against running a bunch of durdly lifegain like the above poster suggests. Having 40 life doesn't make you win any faster if you don't have decent creatures. Just cram some singleton/2-of win conditions in your sideboard for when SG becomes a problem. AoSerenity is a good one. Terminus isn't "better" then Supreme Verdict , they are both very strong sweepers--uncounterability is very relevant in some matchups, just as binning everything is irrelevant in others.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 01, 2013 - 3:02PM #13
Decktesting54
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Jan 1, 2013 -- 2:39PM, Weisse wrote:

I advise against running a bunch of durdly lifegain like the above poster suggests. Having 40 life doesn't make you win any faster if you don't have decent creatures. Just cram some singleton/2-of win conditions in your sideboard for when SG becomes a problem. AoSerenity is a good one. Terminus isn't "better" then Supreme Verdict , they are both very strong sweepers--uncounterability is very relevant in some matchups, just as binning everything is irrelevant in others.




terminus is way better than supreme verdict , it if were talking about aggro match ups, killing everything on the board could lose you the game with geralf's messenger and  blood artist in standard, not to mention gets rid of some of the more resilient creatures like falkenrath aristocrat , lotleth troll , golgari charm and predator ooze as well; It is probably one of the few miracles that are actually worth taking a chance on.

In control match ups where people are using counters your not going to care about having an uncounterable board wipe anyways, a mirror match is probably the only place where the uncounterable clause of supreme verdict is going to matter.

Angel of serenity is probably a good card, but it costs entirely too much in a aggro match up, if your going against an aggro deck there going to kill you before you hit 7 mana without some sort of life gain/wall to defend yourself with, not to mention if you want to hit hard just use the runechanter's pike to ramp up one of your guys later in the game and wail on them; if zombies are the problem just use knight of glory they really can't handle that guy too easily, just make sure he doesn't get hit by a searing spear or something like that.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 01, 2013 - 7:28PM #14
Jman22
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Jan 1, 2013 -- 1:32PM, animatics wrote:

Ah actually just packed a deck with 4 Nevermores and bouncers and on T3 against UWx they always say "ok ok" when you cast it then when you say Restoration Angel they try to cast it in response




Bad players gonna bad.


Jan 1, 2013 -- 3:02PM, Decktesting54 wrote:

Jan 1, 2013 -- 2:39PM, Weisse wrote:

I advise against running a bunch of durdly lifegain like the above poster suggests. Having 40 life doesn't make you win any faster if you don't have decent creatures. Just cram some singleton/2-of win conditions in your sideboard for when SG becomes a problem. AoSerenity is a good one. Terminus isn't "better" then Supreme Verdict , they are both very strong sweepers--uncounterability is very relevant in some matchups, just as binning everything is irrelevant in others.



terminus is way better than supreme verdict , it if were talking about aggro match ups, killing everything on the board could lose you the game with geralf's messenger and blood artist in standard, not to mention gets rid of some of the more resilient creatures like falkenrath aristocrat , lotleth troll , golgari charm and predator ooze as well; It is probably one of the few miracles that are actually worth taking a chance on.


In control match ups where people are using counters your not going to care about having an uncounterable board wipe anyways, a mirror match is probably the only place where the uncounterable clause of supreme verdict is going to matter.


Angel of serenity is probably a good card, but it costs entirely too much in a aggro match up, if your going against an aggro deck there going to kill you before you hit 7 mana without some sort of life gain/wall to defend yourself with, not to mention if you want to hit hard just use the runechanter's pike to ramp up one of your guys later in the game and wail on them; if zombies are the problem just use knight of glory they really can't handle that guy too easily, just make sure he doesn't get hit by a searing spear or something like that.




Dawg.

Dawg.

You may not have realized, dawg, but Terminus costs 6, and Supreme Verdict costs 4.

Also, you guys might not realize this (I can understand if you can't for some reason comprehend it) but durdly life gain creatures are a pillar of this format. When your ability to answer threats is garbage, a control deck has to just slow them down enough to be able to take over the game. 

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 01, 2013 - 8:24PM #15
Decktesting54
Date Joined: Jun 23, 2012
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Jan 1, 2013 -- 7:28PM, Jman22 wrote:

Jan 1, 2013 -- 1:32PM, animatics wrote:

Ah actually just packed a deck with 4 Nevermores and bouncers and on T3 against UWx they always say "ok ok" when you cast it then when you say Restoration Angel they try to cast it in response




Bad players gonna bad.


Jan 1, 2013 -- 3:02PM, Decktesting54 wrote:

Jan 1, 2013 -- 2:39PM, Weisse wrote:

I advise against running a bunch of durdly lifegain like the above poster suggests. Having 40 life doesn't make you win any faster if you don't have decent creatures. Just cram some singleton/2-of win conditions in your sideboard for when SG becomes a problem. AoSerenity is a good one. Terminus isn't "better" then Supreme Verdict , they are both very strong sweepers--uncounterability is very relevant in some matchups, just as binning everything is irrelevant in others.



terminus is way better than supreme verdict , it if were talking about aggro match ups, killing everything on the board could lose you the game with geralf's messenger and blood artist in standard, not to mention gets rid of some of the more resilient creatures like falkenrath aristocrat , lotleth troll , golgari charm and predator ooze as well; It is probably one of the few miracles that are actually worth taking a chance on.


In control match ups where people are using counters your not going to care about having an uncounterable board wipe anyways, a mirror match is probably the only place where the uncounterable clause of supreme verdict is going to matter.


Angel of serenity is probably a good card, but it costs entirely too much in a aggro match up, if your going against an aggro deck there going to kill you before you hit 7 mana without some sort of life gain/wall to defend yourself with, not to mention if you want to hit hard just use the runechanter's pike to ramp up one of your guys later in the game and wail on them; if zombies are the problem just use knight of glory they really can't handle that guy too easily, just make sure he doesn't get hit by a searing spear or something like that.




Dawg.

Dawg.

You may not have realized, dawg, but Terminus costs 6, and Supreme Verdict costs 4.

Also, you guys might not realize this (I can understand if you can't for some reason comprehend it) but durdly life gain creatures are a pillar of this format. When your ability to answer threats is garbage, a control deck has to just slow them down enough to be able to take over the game. 




isn't that just the point anyways, just durdle with lifegain then terminus later in the game when they over extend, then proceed to win the game

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 01, 2013 - 8:25PM #16
SyskoNango
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If i had to run a 7 mana creature with flying i much prefer drogskol reaver over angel of serenity. She is way to hyped. She dies to ultimate price.  While reaver doesnt. I have never liked the bounce On serenity. cause i usually grab my stuff but ill grab their stuff if i have to but she doesnt have hexproof which makes her worse.

is [c]lone revenant[\c] a decent option? a 4/4 hexproof body aint nothing to sneeze at for 5 mana. But if it by itself it gets a nice ability when it deals damage. Maybe 2 in side if there is a bunch of cards with spot removal.

i also like th. Fetergeist idea maybe in certain matchups.

and im right now running 2 terminus an 2 supreme verdicts mainboard with 1 verdict in side.  i us to borrow my bro's other 2 terminus and had 4. Term and 1 supreme verdict main. terminus is better against almost every matchup. In somecases even mirror because u dont want to give them even more moorland haunt activations.

i definatly want to try nevermore now.it be so over powered if it was only opponents couldnt cast. Then ucould use it in the mirror too. I also just got 2 detention sphere and will try these.


has anyone tried knight of glory? Is he very usful against aggro matchups? Because i would have to constantly worry abour spear or pilar of flame. 
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 01, 2013 - 8:26PM #17
SyskoNango
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Jan 1, 2013 -- 8:25PM, SyskoNango wrote:

If i had to run a 7 mana creature with flying i much prefer drogskol reaver over angel of serenity. She is way to hyped. She dies to ultimate price.  While reaver doesnt. I have never liked the bounce On serenity. cause i usually grab my stuff but ill grab their stuff if i have to but she doesnt have hexproof which makes her worse.

is [c]lone revenant[\c] a decent option? a 4/4 hexproof body aint nothing to sneeze at for 5 mana. But if it by itself it gets a nice ability when it deals damage. Maybe 2 in side if there is a bunch of cards with spot removal.

i also like th. Fetergeist idea maybe in certain matchups.

and im right now running 2 terminus an 2 supreme verdicts mainboard with 1 verdict in side.  i us to borrow my bro's other 2 terminus and had 4. Term and 1 supreme verdict main. terminus is better against almost every matchup. In somecases even mirror because u dont want to give them even more moorland haunt activations.

i definatly want to try nevermore now.it be so over powered if it was only opponents couldnt cast. Then ucould use it in the mirror too. I also just got 2 detention sphere and will try these.


has anyone tried knight of glory? Is he very usful against aggro matchups? Because i would have to constantly worry abour spear or pilar of flame. 




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5 months ago  ::  Jan 01, 2013 - 8:42PM #18
Shadowchu
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uh, Angel of Serenity has a lot more uses than reaver. It's a guy with a wrath effect or card advantage. Don't see how this is a problem.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 01, 2013 - 9:23PM #19
SyskoNango
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Im not saying angel of serenity is bad. But i just dont like her in my deck. She flys. She wrth the board or creates card advantage but does nothing when she hits the field which makes her "slow" but not bad. I have resto angel on to her a turn later whn i grabbed myself 2 restoration angels and 1 snapcaster mage. To return them all to my hand so i could bounce his 2 aristocrats an geralfs messanger. But she is so slow. When i land reaver ppl dont want to block unless it can kill it which in aggro is usually just thundermaw hellkite or sometimes falkenrath aristocrat because they dont want me to gain 3 to 6 life and draw 1-2 cards.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 01, 2013 - 9:51PM #20
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I don't suggest hardcasting it at all. Reaver is much better to hardcast, that's for sure. 
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