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6 months ago ::
Dec 30, 2012 - 9:55PM
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Every set they come out with these cool abilities like metalcraft, infect, detain, unleash, scavenge, populate, etc. and far too often they have little to no impact on any constructed formats anywhere (shut up EDH is not a real format).
This is stupid and dumb and no fun. If I don't get at least two Cipher cards that are constructed viable I'm going to be pissed.
Why must design make all these sweet abilities and yet leave us playing constructed without them?
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6 months ago ::
Dec 30, 2012 - 10:22PM
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Would you prefer they intentionally print powerful cards to showcase new mechanics?
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6 months ago ::
Dec 30, 2012 - 11:04PM
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Aug 23, 2007
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Would you prefer they intentionally print powerful cards to showcase new mechanics?
Better then them intentionally printing powerful cards to do nothing.
*cough* thragtusk *cough*
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6 months ago ::
Dec 30, 2012 - 11:05PM
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Infect hasn't an impact on constructed formats?
Most of these abilities are mana intensive and require you to jump through hoops to accomplish them. Cards that are good on their own have high constructed value compared to cards in which you need to combine them with others to be good. This is just obvious. This is why Cipher might fail. You need creatures to make it do something and that could be its downfall.
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6 months ago ::
Dec 31, 2012 - 5:23AM
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... far too often they have little to no impact on any constructed formats anywhere (shut up EDH is not a real format).
Must be nice when you get the privilege to write off a format as "not real" because it does not conform to your argument. Where do you apply for that?
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6 months ago ::
Dec 31, 2012 - 6:42AM
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He's obviously talking about competitive formats, also most keywords don't have that many cards that are good in EDH either.
The reason most cards with these mechanics suck in Constructed is that most cards suck in Constructed. Really as simple as that.
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6 months ago ::
Dec 31, 2012 - 9:23AM
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Most cards suck in constructed? I'm not sure about this one, but vintage constructed got pretty solid cards  Most cards suck in standard?
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6 months ago ::
Dec 31, 2012 - 9:32AM
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Most cards suck in constructed? I'm not sure about this one, but vintage constructed got pretty solid cards
Most cards suck in standard?
Most cards are not constructed worthy, even in EDH. That's just the way it is. Not every card is going to be in the top 60 of its color. You don't get a medal just for participating (unless you're in the Army, than you get two).
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6 months ago ::
Dec 31, 2012 - 9:34AM
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Nyktos is correct. The vast majority of cards are unplayable in any constructed format. Standard has teh highest percent of playables in terms of the actual card pool, yet count how many cards are actually played. Still, saying that the keywords don't get played is flat out wrong. Undying ( Geralf's Messenger  , Strangleroot Geist  ), flashback ( Think Twice  , Forbidden Alchemy  , Snapcaster Mage ), "transform" ( Delver of Secrets  , Huntmaster of the Fells  , unleash ( Rakdos Cackler  ), metalcraft (Tempered Steel was a deck after all), soulbond ( Silverblade Paladin  , Wolfir Silverheart  and miracle ( Bonfire of the Damned  , Terminus  ) are/were pretty common in Standard. Infect would have been bigger if it weren't for Delver being absolutely everywhere (Vapor Snag and Gut Shot make pump spells cry). Even then, Inkmoth Nexus  got played a ton.
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6 months ago ::
Dec 31, 2012 - 10:12AM
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Nyktos is correct. The vast majority of cards are unplayable in any constructed format. Standard has teh highest percent of playables in terms of the actual card pool, yet count how many cards are actually played.
Still, saying that the keywords don't get played is flat out wrong. Undying ( Geralf's Messenger , Strangleroot Geist ), flashback ( Think Twice , Forbidden Alchemy , Snapcaster Mage ), "transform" ( Delver of Secrets , Huntmaster of the Fells , unleash ( Rakdos Cackler ), metalcraft (Tempered Steel was a deck after all), soulbond ( Silverblade Paladin , Wolfir Silverheart and miracle ( Bonfire of the Damned , Terminus ) are/were pretty common in Standard. Infect would have been bigger if it weren't for Delver being absolutely everywhere (Vapor Snag and Gut Shot make pump spells cry). Even then, Inkmoth Nexus got played a ton.
Don't forget unburial.
Hell, new mechanics have some eternal viability.
Any time we see a very modest bleed into eternal, a significant effect on standard and a f***fest, er I mean funfest of a limited environment (I suppose I should mention block too. Does anyone actually play block? I mean, I've been known to play my share of a limited expansion league or three but that's a much better, I mean different kettle of fish) then it's a success and an awesome adventure in finding out if the great MarNagGo axis are showing any signs of running low on design space.
Luckily, we have stop-having-fun guys to remind us that having anything more than 60 cards in your deck is tantamount to being a rapist and anyone considering it should be strung up by their ****  .
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