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5 months ago  ::  Dec 30, 2012 - 2:07AM #11
adeyke
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There are three templates:
At the beginning of the next end step is used on delayed triggered abilities. They'll only ever trigger once, because that's how delayed triggered abilities work.
At the beginning of the end step is used on triggered abilities of permanents that are only expected to resolve once (generally because the resolution of the ability would remove the permanent from the battlefield).
At the beginning of each end step is used on triggered abilities of permanent that are expected to resolve repeatedly.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 01, 2013 - 6:48AM #12
rhazghuul
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So then "At the beggining of the next end step" for Thatcher Revolt means they die at the end of my opponents turn right, since his end step comes up during his turn and that is the next one to come up correct?

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 01, 2013 - 7:14AM #13
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That's not likely to be the next end step to come up. If you cast Thatcher Revolt , a sorcery, during your main phase when the stack is empty (ie. usual sorcery casting time), and there are no other shenanigans in play (ie. Sundial of the Infinite ), then your end step is likely to be the next end step.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 01, 2013 - 8:50AM #14
adeyke
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Jan 1, 2013 -- 7:14AM, JaxsonBateman wrote:

That's not likely to be the next end step to come up. If you cast Thatcher Revolt , a sorcery, during your main phase when the stack is empty (ie. usual sorcery casting time), and there are no other shenanigans in play (ie. Sundial of the Infinite ), then your end step is likely to be the next end step.




The opponent was the one who cast the Thatcher Revolt .

So yes, if your opponent casts Thatcher Revolt , they'll have to sacrifice the tokens in the end step of that turn.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 01, 2013 - 8:52AM #15
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Oh, sure, if it was cast on your opponents turn, then they'd get sac'd at the beginning of your opponent's end step.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 01, 2013 - 6:46PM #16
rhazghuul
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Thanks I figured they should have died on his turn and not at end of his next turn, I knew i was right but lost a tournament over this. I wont lose it again over this. Do you guys know a link I can click on that lets me see all the steps in a turn from start to finish?
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 01, 2013 - 6:56PM #17
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Try rule #500 from the Comprehensive Rules.

btw, how many times do you plan on asking this very same question? 
«Dystocracy : A system of government in which corrupt leadership colludes with dishonest bankers and greedy elites in order to ensure that productive members of society –people who actually do useful work- bear the greatest share of taxes while gaining the least benefit possible.»

Sounds familiar?
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 01, 2013 - 8:31PM #18
rhazghuul
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Sorry didn't find out it fell under rule #513 untill the link for the rules was posted and I was reading. Be easier if the rule number was posted to this but again I'm sorry if it seemed like I was asking the same question over and over because I felt I wasn't on a timer and was making sure I understood this correctly and I do now that I can see the rule it falls under.
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