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6 months ago ::
Dec 28, 2012 - 8:45PM
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Date Joined:
Nov 30, 2012
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Right now, this deck is at 110 cards, 10 more than needed. It's green-blue-red. The strategy is to get big Eldrazi creatures with Annihilator, and other big creatures in, based on the following tactics:
- Mana acceleration through fetching and artifacts
- Put in 0/1 Eldrazi and 1/1 Saproling tokens, then use spells that turn creatures into lands
- Get lots of 1/1 counters on Animar, my commander
- Various spells to give them trample and/or extra combat phases
Commander: Animar, Soul of Elements 
Lands10 Forest 7 Island 5 Mountain Command Tower  Eldrazi Temple  Eye of Ugin  Fire-Lit Thicket  Flooded Grove  Gaea's Cradle  Gruul Turf  Mosswort Bridge  Simic Growth Chamber  Taiga  Temple of the False God  Tropical Island  Vivid Grove  Spells
AEther Mutation 
AEther Vial  Akroma's Memorial  Artifact Mutation  Awakening Zone  Belbe's Portal  Biomantic Mastery  Boundless Realms  Brainstorm  Brood Birthing  Chord of Calling  Chromatic Lantern  Cloud Key  Counterspell  Cultivate  Darksteel Ingot  Defense of the Heart  Doubling Season  Dragon Fangs  Fists of Ironwood  Garruk Wildspeaker  Growth Spasm  Increasing Savagery  Life and Limb  Not of this World  Planar Gate  Primal Command  Primal Rage  Quicksilver Amulet  Rampant Growth  Reap and Sow  Saproling Symbiosis  Savage Beating  Seething Song  Skittering Invasion  Sol Ring  Strength of the Tajuru  Thran Dynamo  Time Warp  Titania's Boon  Tooth and Nail  Vengeful Rebirth  Creatures Alloy Myr  Apprentice Wizard  Artisan of Kozilek  Birds of Paradise  Blightsteel Colossus  Broodwarden  Centaur Omenreader  Citanul Hierophants  Clone  Consecrated Sphinx  Deadwood Treefolk  Deus of Calamity  Elvish Piper  Emrakul's Hatcher  Fertilid  Fierce Empath  Forgotten Ancient  Intet, the Dreamer  It That Betrays  Kozilek, Butcher of Truth  Kozilek's Predator  Llanowar Elves  Myojin of Life's Web  Palladium Myr  Pathrazer of Ulamog  Phyrexian Metamorph  Rapacious One  Riku of Two Reflections  Scion of the Wild  Spawnsire of Ulamog  Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre  Vigor  What should I cut? And is there any glaring omissions? Should I just ditch the Saprolings? Is Doubling Season worth the cost in this deck? Are there too many fetchers and mana-accelerating artifacts, and should I cull some of them? Are there too many Commander standbys like Deadwood Treefolk that are good in the format, but bad here? Is there too much green and not enough red and blue? Is there enough card acceleration (lots of fetches; only three drawers)? What do I do?
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6 months ago ::
Dec 28, 2012 - 9:10PM
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Date Joined:
Jun 17, 2009
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I'd probably ditch the whole tokens sub-theme. They don't really do anything since Animar doesn't get +1/+1 counters for tokens entering the battlefield. I know you're asking for cuts, but I think Vodalian Illusionist  and Vanishing  would be nice techs for Animar due to the rulings for phasing. Great way of protecting Animar without his +1/+1 counters going to waste "When a permanent phases out, it does not change zones or leave the battlefield, so no enters-the-battlefield or leaves-the-battlefield triggered abilities will trigger. Any Auras, Equipment, and/or Fortifications attached to that permanent phase out with it; this is called "phasing out indirectly". A permanent that phases in is treated by the game rules as the same object that phased out. As a result (and unlike a permanent that is flickered), it retains any counters that were on it, and, if it's a creature, it is unaffected by summoning sickness"
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6 months ago ::
Dec 28, 2012 - 11:10PM
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Jun 26, 2010
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I'm inclined to agree with Loozar; unless you've got something that you can swap in that has an awesome 'when creatures ETB...', the token theme should be pitched aside from the Eldrazi Spawn(obviously, lol). Some you might want to think about: Hellkite Charger  Sword of Feast and Famine  (this and the previous together make an instant concession, unless someone has an answer in hand) Joraga Treespeaker  Elvish Archdruid  Suggestions to cut: Scion of the Wild Vigor Forgotten Ancient Blightsteel Collossus Saproling Symbiosis Life and Limb AEther and Artifact Mutation
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6 months ago ::
Dec 29, 2012 - 8:52AM
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Date Joined:
Nov 30, 2012
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6 months ago ::
Dec 29, 2012 - 11:43AM
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Animar wants creatures not spells. I would cut most of you're spells for creatures that fetch lands draw cards or otherwise offer card advantage.
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6 months ago ::
Dec 29, 2012 - 3:45PM
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Date Joined:
Nov 30, 2012
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OK, I've made some cuts to get it down to 104, but I also added SofF&F and Hellkite, and switched out some of my mana-source creatures for Elves so that Elvish Archdruid makes more sense
Commander: Animar, Soul of Elements
Lands: Same 35 as beforeSpells
AEther Vial Akroma's Memorial Awakening Zone Belbe's Portal Biomantic Mastery Boundless Realms Brainstorm Brood Birthing Chord of Calling Chromatic Lantern Cloud Key Counterspell Cultivate Darksteel Ingot Defense of the Heart Dragon Fangs Garruk Wildspeaker Growth Spasm Increasing Savagery Not of this World Planar Gate Primal Command Primal Rage Quicksilver Amulet Rampant Growth Reap and Sow Savage Beating Skittering Invasion Sol Ring Strength of the Tajuru Sword of Feast and Famine Thran Dynamo Time Warp Tooth and Nail Vengeful Rebirth Creatures Artisan of Kozilek Birds of Paradise Blightsteel Colossus Bloom Tender  Broodwarden Centaur Omenreader Citanul Hierophants Clone Consecrated Sphinx Deadwood Treefolk Deus of Calamity Elvish Archdruid Elvish Harbinger  Elvish Piper Emrakul's Hatcher Fertilid Fierce Empath Forgotten Ancient Hellkite Charger Intet, the Dreamer It That Betrays Kozilek, Butcher of Truth Kozilek's Predator Llanowar Elves Myojin of Life's Web Palladium Myr Pathrazer of Ulamog Phyrexian Metamorph Rapacious One Riku of Two Reflections Spawnsire of Ulamog Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre Vigor Was it a bad idea to ditch Doubling Season since I dropped the Saproling mechanic? And I still have four more drops, so what's under the knife? Can I afford to drop one of Boundless , Reap or PC ? Do I need both Deadwood and Vengeful ? Are there too many fetchers and mana sources? Am I too wedded to giving my big guns Trample? ( Lady Tomb , PR , Fangs and Garruk all do it). What do I do?
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6 months ago ::
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:31PM
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Date Joined:
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Was it a bad idea to ditch Doubling Season since I dropped the Saproling mechanic?
Nope, not at all.
And I still have four more drops, so what's under the knife? Can I afford to drop one of Boundless , Reap or PC ? Do I need both Deadwood and Vengeful ? Are there too many fetchers and mana sources? Am I too wedded to giving my big guns Trample? ( Lady Tomb , PR , Fangs and Garruk all do it). What do I do?
I would drop the Boundless Realms , the Deadwood Treefolk , Vengeful Rebirth , and Primal Rage , myself. I would also reiterate dropping Blightsteel Colossus ...a big gun indeed, but I find that too many times it brings a dark, unsatisfying end to games(i.e., you become 'that guy' the minute it hits the field...worse yet, suppose it's bribed  ?). To replace Vengeful Rebirth in that instance, I would then suggest Restock  . Preferably, you should have Regrowth  , so it can be used more than once, but if you don't have the money for it, Restock's a viable alternative.
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6 months ago ::
Dec 29, 2012 - 10:58PM
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Date Joined:
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Animar wants creatures not spells. I would cut most of you're spells for creatures that fetch lands draw cards or otherwise offer card advantage.
This.
Given your attachment to the Elvish Archdruid , I'd add Joraga Treespeaker , Sylvan Ranger  , Wood Elves  , Coiling Oracle  , Momir Vig, Simic Visionary  , Farhaven Elf  , and/or Elvish Visionary  .
They would take the place of Boundless Realms , Brainstorm , Dragon Fangs , Growth Spasm , Planar Gate , Primal Rage , and Birds of Paradise .
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6 months ago ::
Dec 30, 2012 - 12:40PM
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Deadwood treefolk is a fantastic card in animar. one green to get back a creature? Very doable in animar.
If you're going to run bloom tender and elvish archdruid you might try intruder alarm, primordial sage and that new guy soul of the harvest to Maxine gun dudes onto the field.
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6 months ago ::
Dec 30, 2012 - 1:53PM
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Date Joined:
Nov 30, 2012
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I would also reiterate dropping Blightsteel Colossus ...a big gun indeed, but I find that too many times it brings a dark, unsatisfying end to games (i.e., you become 'that guy' the minute it hits the field...worse yet, suppose it's bribed ?).
So, am to gather that social pressures dictate not using B.C.? The problem is if people target my deck, they'd just go after Ulamog or another Eldrazi. Should I replace it with Darksteel Colossus  or Worldspine Wurm  to not be "that guy"? (What I assume you mean by "that guy" is the minute B.C. comes out, you automatically get attacked by all of your opponents). This isn't a Infect or Proliferate deck; B.C. isn't really that much of an improvement over D.C., I'd be happy to switch it out if it made me less of a target. But I feel that I need another big gun...this is a big gun deck that makes Deus of Calamity look small (and let's be honest, DofC is an honorary Eldrazi)
I've decided to drop Boundless and Not of this World (it's too much of a niche card and is way too expensive without the niche; I'd probably be better off with Cancel  or some other Counterspell dup, even if I had an extra space).
I'm leaning towards dropping Primal Rage , but I don't quite understand why giving super-big creature trample doesn't seem to be a priority.
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