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6 months ago  ::  Dec 26, 2012 - 3:13PM #1
Bangtor
Date Joined: Dec 1, 2012
Posts: 25
Alrighty im looking at making my red deck wins deck but i wanna hear from all of you. Now i know Hellkites are HUGE in this but money is an issue for those so yeah... This is what im looking at right now.

4x Stromkirk Noble
4x Rakdos Cackler 
4x Ash Zealot 
4x Gore-House Chainwalker
2x Lightning Mauler
2x Pyreheart wolf
4x Hell rider
1x Archwing Dragon 
creatures: 25

2x Brimstone Volley
2x Geistflame
2x Searing Spear
4x Pillar of Flame
1x Devil's Play
1x Bonfire of the Damned
2x Flames of the Firebrand
1x Thunderbolt
spells: 15

4x Hellion of Crucible
20x mountains

SideBoard:
2x Splatter Thug
2x Rakdos Shred-Freak
1x Ring of Valkas
1x Rakdos Keyrune
1x Flames of the Firebrand
3x Thunderbolt
1x Thunderous Wrath
2x Mark of Mutiny 
2x Mizzium Mortars
 Cards: 15
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 26, 2012 - 3:46PM #2
tehbeast
Date Joined: Jun 14, 2006
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64 cards maindeck? Try and get it down to 60. Without a 5-drop, 23 land should suffice, and if you can reduce your 4-drops by 1-2, you can drop down to 22 land. I run 22 land in my Zombies list, and its curve tops out at a set of Aristocrat. 3 Crucible, 19 Mountain is probably how I'd go about it.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 26, 2012 - 3:57PM #3
Bangtor
Date Joined: Dec 1, 2012
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Dec 26, 2012 -- 3:46PM, tehbeast wrote:

64 cards maindeck? Try and get it down to 60. Without a 5-drop, 23 land should suffice, and if you can reduce your 4-drops by 1-2, you can drop down to 22 land. I run 22 land in my Zombies list, and its curve tops out at a set of Aristocrat. 3 Crucible, 19 Mountain is probably how I'd go about it.


Alright yeah that sounds good, anything creature wise for 5-drops that you can think of for a decent price? I just dont wanna drop 39$ for one card.

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6 months ago  ::  Dec 26, 2012 - 5:51PM #4
Anubuss
Date Joined: Mar 9, 2007
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Only 5 drop worth the time to play it is Hellkite. Don't bother with the 5 drop slot if you can't swing the cash.

Though that Bonefire is 2 Hellkites if I recall prices.

   
   
   
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 26, 2012 - 7:04PM #5
tehbeast
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Nosir, Bonfire down to about 25-26, just barely more than Snapcaster, while Hellkite is around 40 most shops.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 26, 2012 - 7:14PM #6
Anubuss
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Wow how the mighty have fallen.

In that case less Geistflame more Spear.

   
   
   
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 26, 2012 - 7:29PM #7
pzbw7z
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Four Crucibles is WAY too many. It will result in many mulligans. You need to start with two . I've been running two and I've gotten away with it so far, but I've never actually gotten to use the thing. I'm seriously considering dropping it altogether.

In any case, you can almost certainly run this with a little less than 24 lands.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 26, 2012 - 8:36PM #8
Bangtor
Date Joined: Dec 1, 2012
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Alright thanks everyone! ill switch it to two crucibles, also what do you all think of stonewrights for the side board? I'm not 100% sure if they are a good fit for the deck.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 26, 2012 - 9:48PM #9
Anubuss
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On 24 lands I've never been punished for my 4 Crucibles. I have yet to not be able to stick a turn 2 Zealot or Shred-Freak. I rarely ever have had to activate one but when I have its been because I was either already winning or was try to break a board stall. A few times its been for their intended reason, rebounding from a board wipe. I've never been not glad to see one.

I've only had to pitch 1 opening hand because I was rocking two of them but bad hands happen.

Stonewright is solid. I run 2 MD since I opt to skip the 3 drop slot and all my 2 drops have haste. Gives me something to do before Hellrider and Hellkite.

   
   
   
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 26, 2012 - 9:58PM #10
tehbeast
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Plus firebreathing + first strike = pwn
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