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5 months ago  ::  Dec 22, 2012 - 8:13PM #1
kenjitsu1984
Date Joined: Dec 18, 2008
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Creatures that I think are worth while to play are:

desecration demon
Niv-mizzet, dracogenius
Olivia voldaren
snapcaster mage
thundermaw hellkite

Other than that what are the cards  I should be using?
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5 months ago  ::  Dec 22, 2012 - 9:35PM #2
Kazepenku
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Well, Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker is a planeswalker that's in Grixis
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5 months ago  ::  Dec 23, 2012 - 12:22PM #3
kenjitsu1984
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Yes, I think one is a good number.
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5 months ago  ::  Dec 23, 2012 - 12:23PM #4
kenjitsu1984
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I think one is enough.
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5 months ago  ::  Dec 30, 2012 - 10:21PM #5
kenjitsu1984
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What do you guys think the optimal build would be for grixis is?
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5 months ago  ::  Dec 31, 2012 - 3:11AM #6
PandamanX64
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guy...the idea is that this is a deck HELP forum. You post a decklist, and we try to help. We don't make the list FOR you.

You could at least do the legwork and find what grixis things are being played right now.  
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 02, 2013 - 8:47PM #7
kenjitsu1984
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Im looking for help obviously. The grixis stuff being played right now doesn't work against the meta in my opinion. It needs help. So what Im trying to do is brainstorm different ideas and theories and test them out. You sir are not helping.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 02, 2013 - 9:00PM #8
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In my opinion, Grixis needs to be leaning on discard as much as it can in this meta. It's the only thing proven to 1-for-1 Tusk outside of playing your own. Also, Appetite is fairly strong against Reanimator builds. Snapcaster and Augur are good choices for CA, and help you not get blown out by Aggro. I've yet to find a good finisher, but Hellkite is a nice option. Dimir will really help this deck as far as mana goes. It's hard getting the mana right when you're so relient on early discard (and don't have the other Black shockland).

Rakdos Keyrune is pretty strong, as is Rakdos's Return. You need some type of sweeper available as well, but Temblor is just meh.
 
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 02, 2013 - 9:44PM #9
PandamanX64
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Jan 2, 2013 -- 8:47PM, kenjitsu1984 wrote:

Im looking for help obviously. The grixis stuff being played right now doesn't work against the meta in my opinion. It needs help. So what Im trying to do is brainstorm different ideas and theories and test them out. You sir are not helping.




I understand you need help. but there's a difference between providing a list you want help with, and giving us a list of 5 cards and asking others for opinions on an optimal build.





In more on topic discussion, I'd probably test something like:


2 snapcaster mage
2 evil twin
2 niv-mizzet, dracogenius

3 duress
2 Appetite for brains 
2 victem of the night
1 ultimate price
4 pillar of flame
2 dreadbore
3 mizzium mortars
4 rakdos keyrune
1 nicol bolas, planeswalker
4 think twice
3 jace, architect of thought


25 lands 
bunch of dual lands, and drownyard


Pillars mained vs aggro. Could probably find room for more threats or counters, but whatever.



EDIT: wrong numbers initially.



If you don't like that, you can test either of these builds:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTE4uzWi5U0

wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?...



There. Did the legwork for you. 

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 02, 2013 - 11:44PM #10
kenjitsu1984
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Thanks for the help. They are not what Im looking for though.
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