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5 months ago  ::  Dec 21, 2012 - 10:17AM #11
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in case anyone isn't clear on this, slaughter games is pretty insane against most decks which lean on sphinx's revelation.  i think i've lost 1 match ever using jund to beat a bant control deck (we're talking dozens and dozens of matchs).  slaughter games hitting revelation and then thragtusk.... not much they can do except hope they draw answers to my threats and try and race me via mill.
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5 months ago  ::  Dec 21, 2012 - 12:03PM #12
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I love Slaughter Games too.


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5 months ago  ::  Dec 22, 2012 - 6:45AM #13
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Dec 21, 2012 -- 10:17AM, Burning_Forest wrote:

in case anyone isn't clear on this, slaughter games is pretty insane against most decks which lean on sphinx's revelation.  i think i've lost 1 match ever using jund to beat a bant control deck (we're talking dozens and dozens of matchs).  slaughter games hitting revelation and then thragtusk.... not much they can do except hope they draw answers to my threats and try and race me via mill.




Now try that against Esper. Just watched two of my friends (Jund V. Esper) play 8 matches in a row, sideboarding for 5 of them. Esper lost 0, even through two Slaughter Games

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5 months ago  ::  Dec 22, 2012 - 9:30AM #14
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Dec 21, 2012 -- 10:17AM, Burning_Forest wrote:

in case anyone isn't clear on this, slaughter games is pretty insane against most decks which lean on sphinx's revelation.  i think i've lost 1 match ever using jund to beat a bant control deck (we're talking dozens and dozens of matchs).  slaughter games hitting revelation and then thragtusk.... not much they can do except hope they draw answers to my threats and try and race me via mill.




Which type of Bant lists were you playing against? Amass vs Jace among the other weird splits makes a world of difference.  I dislike the one played by Turtenwald and Hetrick, but Reid's is much smoother. I've also seen lists that run 2 or 3 Revelations  simply because every Rev after the first is usually winmore.

Don't you think it's possible that Bant becoming popular also results in a large number of players trying to steamroll with the deck because they haven't figured out how to operate it yet?



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5 months ago  ::  Dec 22, 2012 - 12:45PM #15
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Dec 22, 2012 -- 9:30AM, Wynzerman wrote:

Dec 21, 2012 -- 10:17AM, Burning_Forest wrote:

in case anyone isn't clear on this, slaughter games is pretty insane against most decks which lean on sphinx's revelation.  i think i've lost 1 match ever using jund to beat a bant control deck (we're talking dozens and dozens of matchs).  slaughter games hitting revelation and then thragtusk.... not much they can do except hope they draw answers to my threats and try and race me via mill.




Which type of Bant lists were you playing against? Amass vs Jace among the other weird splits makes a world of difference.  I dislike the one played by Turtenwald and Hetrick, but Reid's is much smoother. I've also seen lists that run 2 or 3 Revelations  simply because every Rev after the first is usually winmore.

Don't you think it's possible that Bant becoming popular also results in a large number of players trying to steamroll with the deck because they haven't figured out how to operate it yet?




Multiple revs is win-more, but you pretty much have to see one in a lot of matchups

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5 months ago  ::  Dec 23, 2012 - 9:57AM #16
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Bant has been good for several years now, it's just what happens when you combine the completely-unfair value of U/W with the creature-efficiency of G.
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5 months ago  ::  Dec 23, 2012 - 4:59PM #17
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i dunno, bant really isn't that good right now.  wait... when was bant last good?  you mean mythic bant?
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5 months ago  ::  Dec 23, 2012 - 5:05PM #18
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I have to disagree. Bant is pretty insane right now. Atleast in my local meta that is. So much control at FNM the last few weeks its unusual to see so much control at FNM. Drownyard won me so many games this past Friday. I also beat aggro with Thragtusk/Restoration Angel EOT. 
 I had someone Slaughter Games my Sphinx's Revelation and Dissipates and they still couldn't win the match.  
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5 months ago  ::  Dec 23, 2012 - 5:39PM #19
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Dec 23, 2012 -- 4:59PM, Burning_Forest wrote:

i dunno, bant really isn't that good right now.  wait... when was bant last good?  you mean mythic bant?



Reid Duke begs to differ. 

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5 months ago  ::  Dec 23, 2012 - 6:12PM #20
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The insane and unfair things Alchemist Refuge allowed Reid Duke to do to people at the SCG Invitational in LA is what begs to differ. Refuge is retarded awesome. Gives UW Control the one thing they normally cant do. EOT everything that matters is soooo good.
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