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6 months ago ::
Dec 17, 2012 - 8:30AM
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Hello all. Not really sure where to put this so move it if it needs to be moved. Could someone explain how Panoptic Mirror  works ? It seems something like an Isochron Sceptre but the wording really has me confused. Do I exile one card with it...or can any number of cards be exiled and during your upkeep you choose one that has been exiled with it.....or something like that? Its the 'copy AN imprinted' that is making me wonder. If I wanted to use Army of the Damned  with the Mirror, how would it work exactly? Then what about a card like Goblin War Strike  ? Thanks a ton in advance for all your help.
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6 months ago ::
Dec 17, 2012 - 8:35AM
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Do I exile one card with it...or can any number of cards be exiled and during your upkeep you choose one that has been exiled with it.....or something like that?
Each time you use panoptic mirror's first ability, you can exile one card. If you use the ability multiple times, you can exile multiple cards.
If I wanted to use Army of the Damned with the Mirror, how would it work exactly?
At some point, you use panoptic mirror's first ability, with X = 8. You exile army of the damned, imprinting it on the mirror. At the beginning of each of your upkeeps, panoptic mirror's second ability triggers, and you can cast a copy of army of the dead.
Then what about a card like Goblin War Strike ?
At some point, you use panoptic mirror's first ability, with X = 1. You exile goblin war strike imprinting it on the mirror. At the beginning of each of your upkeeps, panoptic mirror's second ability triggers, and you can cast a copy of goblin war strike.
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6 months ago ::
Dec 17, 2012 - 8:39AM
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Jul 18, 2012
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or can any number of cards be exiled and during your upkeep you choose one that has been exiled with it.....or something like that?
Exactly.
Any time the mirror is untapped and you have  open, you can pay  to exile a new spell, which you can then choose to copy during any future upkeep.
It's also very important to note that the Imprint ability can be activated in response to the upkeep trigger. Since they resolve in reverse order, when the upkeep trigger resolves, you will be able to choose the newly-imprinted card.
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6 months ago ::
Dec 17, 2012 - 8:46AM
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Jul 12, 2009
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Thanks guys. :-) So lets say I exiled both of the sorceries I mentioned before...during my upkeep I choose which of those two exiled cards I want to 'copy' that turn without paying any mana for it? Sorry if this seems stupid, but I just want to make absolutely sure I understand how the card works before I order a playset. The last card I thought worked one way didnt at all once I checked here with you all. Not too fun to order cards only to find out they arent what you thought they were 
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6 months ago ::
Dec 17, 2012 - 8:51AM
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Yes, that's correct - if you imprint both Army of the Damned and Goblin War Strike on the Panoptic Mirror , for each upkeep trigger you'll choose one of those cards to copy and cast. You won't get to cast both from the one trigger. As an aside, it's an infinite turn combo with... well, any card that gives you an extra turn. ;-)
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6 months ago ::
Dec 17, 2012 - 8:56AM
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Jul 12, 2009
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Cool...thanks again  One more question. Is the copy considered 'cast' or what? Some of the terminology still confuses me. I was using Maelstrom Archangel  to get Phage the Untouchable  into play and found out later that costs me the game too because of the wording or something.
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6 months ago ::
Dec 17, 2012 - 8:57AM
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Thanks guys. :-)
So lets say I exiled both of the sorceries I mentioned before...during my upkeep I choose which of those two exiled cards I want to 'copy' that turn without paying any mana for it?
That's correct yes.
When the Mirror's ability resolves, it allows you to copy any one card exiled by the Mirror. This includes cards exiled in your upleep after the ability triggers.
For example, say you cast the Mirror in your turn 5. You don't imprint a card on it.
At the beginning of your next upkeep the Mirror triggers. In response you activate the Mirror's abilit for X=5, and imprint Temporal Manipulation  .
When the Mirror's copy resolves you can copy the Manipulation and get another turn.
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6 months ago ::
Dec 17, 2012 - 9:00AM
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Cool...thanks again
One more question.
Is the copy considered 'cast' or what?
Panoptic Mirror tells you to copy a card and then cast that copy of a card. Therefore yes the copy is cast.
Thius is possibkle bcause you are copying a card and not a spell. Copies of spells are never ccast; copies of cards are cast.
Some of the terminology still confuses me.
I was using Maelstrom Archangel to get Phage the Untouchable into play and found out later that costs me the game too because of the wording or something.
If you cast Phage from Maelstrom Angel's ability you don't lose the game. Whoever told you that was wrong.
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6 months ago ::
Dec 17, 2012 - 9:05AM
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Jul 12, 2009
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"If you cast Phage from Maelstrom Angel's ability you don't lose the game. Whoever told you that was wrong" Well that is interesting. To me it looked like it worked just fine. I was using it in an animated dead sort of deck. Get out the Maelstrom quick, attack next turn and drop the Phage. Seemed ok but someone on another forum I was talking to gave me a long explanation that I didnt understand that seemed to be saying that the Phage wasnt 'cast' from my hand but another source put it into play, which meant I lost the game. "Panoptic Mirror tells you to copy a card and then cast that copy of a card. Therefore yes the copy is cast. Thius is possibkle bcause you are copying a card and not a spell. Copies of spells are never ccast; copies of cards are cast." Great....thanks for the info. I'll have to print this thread out so I dont have to argue with anyone about it when we play
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6 months ago ::
Dec 17, 2012 - 9:12AM
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Jul 12, 2009
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Thanks guys. :-)
So lets say I exiled both of the sorceries I mentioned before...during my upkeep I choose which of those two exiled cards I want to 'copy' that turn without paying any mana for it?
That's correct yes.
When the Mirror's ability resolves, it allows you to copy any one card exiled by the Mirror. This includes cards exiled in your upleep after the ability triggers.
For example, say you cast the Mirror in your turn 5. You don't imprint a card on it.
At the beginning of your next upkeep the Mirror triggers. In response you activate the Mirror's abilit for X=5, and imprint Temporal Manipulation .
When the Mirror's copy resolves you can copy the Manipulation and get another turn.
So I cast the Mirror on turn 5, then on my next turn say I have a Dark Ritual or something to get the 8mana for the Army of the Damned and imprint it on the Mirror, then it can immediately copy that card and put the 13 tokens into play during that same upkeep?
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