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6 months ago ::
Dec 16, 2012 - 3:00PM
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It's been a while since we had a good old discussion about the colors and what they stand (or don't stand) for. I've always enjoyed these types of discussion, despite them sometimes getting heated, so here's my attempt to start discussion: I've been wondering how each color would be at its best. I know this is a bit of a double question, since it can be interpreted to mean how each color sees itself at its best, but also about how you, personally, see a color at its best. I think both answers would be interesting to see. I'll start:
White
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White at its best, for me, means a strong, inclusive community, where suffering is prevented wherever possible. People are strongly encouraged to use their talents for the betterment of the whole. All people are equal and relatively free.
White itself, would probably see things more strictly. They'd envision a strong hierarchy and more strict rules, and it might want to go above "encouraging".
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The way I see Blue at its best is gathering knowledge, not just for the sake of knowledge, but also for the benefit of everyone and for perfecting society.
Blue would probably see improving lives as just a side-benefit, irrelevant to the greater goal of knowing (and being able to control) everything. Blue would see itself at its best when it's advancing to some kind of singularity: rapidly becoming increasingly better/smarter. Black
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Black at its best, in my opinion, is ambitious, but without actively hurting others. They would want to be the best they can be, through far-reaching means, but never putting too much strains on others or on society.
Black would probably think I'm a sissy for caring so much about other people. Red
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I see Red, when it's being the best it can be, as in tune with its emotions, understanding them and being guided by them, without being completely governed by them.
Red might be more impulsive, letting itself be controlled by emotion more.
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To me, Green is the hardest color to say something about. I think I see it as trying to maintain a stable and sustainable ecosystem. Not merely maintaining the status-quo, but also letting new things blossom.
"What is etherium but the next logical step?" It's all my fault.
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Hell, if they steal from us, we'd be honored.
oh my god, AWESOME!
Then changing the Slivers was your idea! haha
lol
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6 months ago ::
Dec 16, 2012 - 3:21PM
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I think one of Black's defining characteristics is selfishness, but as you say, there is no reason selfishness needs to be served at the exclusion of others. Capitalism is, in many ways, built on the concept of positive selfishness, and I think part of the reason capitalist societies are struggling in some parts of the world right now is because of an over-application of traditional White-mana practices.
So for me, at its "best," Black is (mostly) pure capitalism, where everyone wants what is best for themselves, but are mindful of society as a whole, because keeping the society/economy strong will help the individual in the long run, as well. Black, to the extreme, may focus on instant gratification, but Black "at its best" is willing to settle for slightly less now (not a lot less, they're still looking out for themselves) if it will keep society strong, thereby allowing themselves to reap the rewards for longer.
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6 months ago ::
Dec 16, 2012 - 3:24PM
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I would add that black enjoys competition. Not just bringing out the best in itself but in others as well. How else are you supposed to assert your obvious superiority if the people you're competing against never had a chance. Green has the capacity for becoming more than itself. Green is the best color when it comes to color fixing and I feel like its desire for oneness with nature allows it to appreciate the other colors world views more readily than other colors. White accepts other world views for the sake of peace and order, green accepts them because they work. I think the best example I can think of is a Buddha, someone who has achieved oneness with EVERYTHING.
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6 months ago ::
Dec 16, 2012 - 3:45PM
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White accepts other world views for the sake of peace and order, green accepts them because they work.
I'm not sure if I completely agree with the statement, but I do like styling Green to be a pragmatic color.
"What is etherium but the next logical step?" It's all my fault.
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Hell, if they steal from us, we'd be honored.
oh my god, AWESOME!
Then changing the Slivers was your idea! haha
lol
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6 months ago ::
Dec 16, 2012 - 4:40PM
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Someone once posited that  stands more for self-awareness than selfishness per se. is, after all, the colour of moral relativism. Good , I guess, could manifest as people disgusted by moral hypocrisy.
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6 months ago ::
Dec 16, 2012 - 5:21PM
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Good , I guess, could manifest as people disgusted by moral hypocrisy.
I was about to call you out on this, but then I remembered this is about colors at their 'best', and I have to concede the point.
Black's mix of pride and competitiveness, I imagine, would manifest in a 'look at what I did all by myself' sort of attitude. A want to play fair (and win fair), something it would share with certain segments of green.
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5 months ago ::
Dec 17, 2012 - 1:17AM
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Good , I guess, could manifest as people disgusted by moral hypocrisy.
I was about to call you out on this, but then I remembered this is about colors at their 'best', and I have to concede the point.
Black's mix of pride and competitiveness, I imagine, would manifest in a 'look at what I did all by myself' sort of attitude. A want to play fair (and win fair), something it would share with certain segments of green.
I agree from a personal point of view, but would Black see itself as the best it could be in that way? Wouldn't Black think it could do better by not playing fair?
"What is etherium but the next logical step?" It's all my fault.
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Hell, if they steal from us, we'd be honored.
oh my god, AWESOME!
Then changing the Slivers was your idea! haha
lol
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5 months ago ::
Dec 17, 2012 - 2:39AM
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Depends. Maybe it just doesn't consider itself worthy if it cannot do it "for realz". But then again, pragmatism is a major feature of .
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5 months ago ::
Dec 17, 2012 - 11:07AM
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I'd say the best in the druidic side of green is a calm understanding of a proper order of things and simply being content to be a part of the world instead of striving to be it's master. (Hint: Not Christianity-derived Western consumerist insanity. Google around a bit with the word "permaculture", and you see some of the best Vedalken Heretic  / Lorescale Coatl  -esque real world blue-green thinking there is.)
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5 months ago ::
Dec 17, 2012 - 12:52PM
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I tend to feel that these conversations get really abstract and vague simply because of the bredth of what colors cover and represent and do. So, since my thing is Art, here's each of the colors artistically at their best:
Green is Intuition, it's being able to view a work and comprehend it intuitively as part of a system. It's feeling your way through a painting and putting the right color in the right spot instintually. Good Taste comes from green, as does the ability to find your niche in the art world. Think of art as environmental ecosystem and you see where green excels.
White is Conscience and Order, it's looking at a work and saying "What does this tell me? Do I like its message?" White as its best strives to be a communicator of both sublime beauty and sublime truth, pairing a lofty ideal with highly refined aesthetics. Think of art as a temple and you see where white excels.
Blue is Technical Mastery, it's looking at an idea and saying "What process do I use to arrive at the set of results I seek? How do I effectively convey information, or alternately, what aspect of style or technique is as-of-yet unexplored?" Intellectual experimentation comes from blue, but so does the kind of meticulous refinement that new ideas require. Think of art as a scientific theory and you see where blue excels.
Black is Will and Courage, the will that laughs at compromise. It's painting a portrait of Lenin on the wall of the Rockefeller Center and telling Rockefeller to stuff it when he objects. Black at its best says to hell with the consequences, I demand that the world bend to my own genius. Think of art as a plan for world domination and you see where black excels.
Red is Empathy and the Emotional Experience, its the art of forcing a response from the audience. Red asks "Where does the heart of this piece lie?" and centers the narrative around that core. As Black eschews compromise, Red eschews dilution of an emotional truth. Think of art as a passionate kiss and you see where black excels.
Interestingly, you can see the conflicts each of the colors has from this. White bends the message to a broader concern, while Black's vision is uncompromising. Black forces the world to make space for it, while Green thrives in a space unfilled. Green creates art instinctually, while Blue must dissect the mechanisms and see how art works. Blue pushes experimentation and intellectualism, while Red emphasizes the stories and symbols that are universal and have stood the test of time (you can't find a much more fundamental, profound symbol than that of fire, after all). Red views its subjects through a lens of empathy and individual emotion, while White sees them as sociological symbols representing larger systems of meaning.
But, I think you can also see how the enemy colors would balance each other out in very dynamic and powerful ways.
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