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6 months ago  ::  Dec 13, 2012 - 9:35AM #1
WotC_JohnS
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Latest Developments, which goes live Friday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 13, 2012 - 9:25PM #2
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Good article. I like the number crunching exercises.
'I have had players complain about having extra rares in a pack. I’ve had players complain about getting free things. I have had players complain because they liked something “too much”.' - Mark Rosewater's Twitter, May 7th, 2013
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 14, 2012 - 1:24AM #3
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Yeah, me too. There were some enjoyable decisions to take there.

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Zindaras' meta is like a fossil, ancient and its secrets yet to be uncovered. Only men of yore, long dead, knew of it.

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6 months ago  ::  Dec 14, 2012 - 7:52AM #4
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I liked the format of this article a lot.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 14, 2012 - 8:14AM #5
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I strongly disagree on the second example. Playing a 1/1 Capler implies you mean to chump-block at some point in the game.

Now I'm assuming you're playing an agressive Rakdos deck and it probably has more creatures.

Since you're at 20 life there's no need to chump so why would you ever play it as a 1/1? Play it agressively and play to win. If you ever get Auger Spree you get to remove his blocker and attack for 2 instead of 1.

I liked the article but some of the reasonings seemed a bit shortsighted.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 14, 2012 - 11:13AM #6
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Didn't expect this article. Kind of fun and interesting. Should've been a Limited Information article.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 14, 2012 - 12:34PM #7
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Dec 14, 2012 -- 8:14AM, Drecon84 wrote:

I strongly disagree on the second example. Playing a 1/1 Capler implies you mean to chump-block at some point in the game.

Now I'm assuming you're playing an agressive Rakdos deck and it probably has more creatures.

Since you're at 20 life there's no need to chump so why would you ever play it as a 1/1? Play it agressively and play to win. If you ever get Auger Spree you get to remove his blocker and attack for 2 instead of 1.

I liked the article but some of the reasonings seemed a bit shortsighted.




Yeah what I would do is not play it at all. It doesn't do anything in this board state so why not keep your options open until you know what is most needed?

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5 months ago  ::  Dec 17, 2012 - 10:18AM #8
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Dec 14, 2012 -- 12:34PM, TobyornotToby wrote:

Dec 14, 2012 -- 8:14AM, Drecon84 wrote:

I strongly disagree on the second example. Playing a 1/1 Capler implies you mean to chump-block at some point in the game.

Now I'm assuming you're playing an agressive Rakdos deck and it probably has more creatures.

Since you're at 20 life there's no need to chump so why would you ever play it as a 1/1? Play it agressively and play to win. If you ever get Auger Spree you get to remove his blocker and attack for 2 instead of 1.

I liked the article but some of the reasonings seemed a bit shortsighted.


Yeah what I would do is not play it at all. It doesn't do anything in this board state so why not keep your options open until you know what is most needed?


I had a Rakdos Cackler that I auto-unleashed in the mid-game, and then realized immediately that it was a mistake.  Admittedly, I was playing a more controlling R/U/b deck, and my opponent was Golgari with a Korozda Guildmage .  Being able to block an Intimidating black creature after my opponent spent mana to pump it would have been very nice.  I think I still won that game, but I didn't deserve to.

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