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6 months ago ::
Dec 12, 2012 - 12:57PM
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So I am unfamiliar with rulings related to sacrifice. Here is one example. My friend claims that for Magmaw  he can sacrifice a single Eldrazi Spawn Token for both the  , and as part of the activation cost of Magmaw. Is this a possibility?
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6 months ago ::
Dec 12, 2012 - 12:58PM
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Date Joined:
Nov 16, 2007
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No, just like you can't use one mana to pay for two abilities. After you sacrifice it for one, it's no longer around to be sacrificed for the other. The ability's cost is payed as part of activating the ability. You can't activate the ability if you can't pay the cost.
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6 months ago ::
Dec 12, 2012 - 2:33PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 29, 2007
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601.2f If the total cost includes a mana payment, the player then has a chance to activate mana
abilities (see rule 605, “Mana Abilities” ). Mana abilities must be activated before costs are paid.
601.2g The player pays the total cost in any order. Partial payments are not allowed. Unpayable
costs can’t be paid.
Once he activates the Spawn mana ability (saccing the spawn) in 601.2f, he can't pay the sac cost for the Magmaw ability in 601.2g because the Spawn is already gone
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6 months ago ::
Dec 12, 2012 - 4:51PM
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Thank you, I was fairly certain that was the case but he was quite insistent.
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6 months ago ::
Dec 12, 2012 - 5:05PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 29, 2007
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There's also this rule. 117.10. Each payment of a cost applies to only one spell, ability, or effect. For example, a player can’t sacrifice just one creature to activate the activated abilities of two permanents that each require sacrificing a creature as a cost. Also, the resolution of a spell or ability doesn’t pay another spell or ability’s cost, even if part of its effect is doing the same thing the other cost asks for.
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