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6 months ago ::
Dec 10, 2012 - 11:25PM
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If someone casts Wrath of God  can I still use Kalastria Highborn  s ability for each vampire of mine that dies? If someone casts Planar Cleansing  can I still use Sigil of the New Dawn  's ability on all the creatures it kills? I am not sure whether either of them should really apply, and whether Kalastria's wording should only apply for itself.
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6 months ago ::
Dec 10, 2012 - 11:30PM
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- Celestial Teapots are broken!
Date Joined:
Feb 24, 2007
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Yes to both. If multiple permanents leave the battlefield simultaneously, they'll "see" each other leave.
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6 months ago ::
Dec 11, 2012 - 4:59AM
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Date Joined:
Oct 29, 2007
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603.6d Normally, objects that exist immediately after an event are checked to see if the event matched any trigger conditions. Continuous effects that exist at that time are used to determine what the trigger conditions are and what the objects involved in the event look like. However, some triggered abilities must be treated specially. Leaves-the-battlefield abilities, abilities that trigger when a permanent phases out, abilities that trigger when an object that all players can see is put into a hand or library, abilities that trigger specifically when an object becomes unattached, abilities that trigger when a player loses control of an object, and abilities that trigger when a player planeswalks away from a plane will trigger based on their existence, and the appearance of objects, prior to the event rather than afterward. The game has to “look back in time” to determine if these abilities trigger.
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