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7 months ago  ::  Dec 10, 2012 - 1:21AM #31
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Turnip_Song or Therealphamatt. Going with Turnip_Song I guess.
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7 months ago  ::  Dec 10, 2012 - 6:18AM #32
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VOTING PERIOD IS OVER

I will begin compiling the votes and announce the JUDGE'S VOTE by the end of the day. 
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7 months ago  ::  Dec 10, 2012 - 7:05AM #33
purplebackpack89
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Dec 9, 2012 -- 9:59PM, 3-7-15-1-292 wrote:

Experimental Hydroburn 


{Picture is water setting fire to a lab, the product of an experiment gone horribly awry}


Instant


Tap two target creatures that share a controller 


Splice onto instant  (As you cast another Instant spell, you may reveal this card from your hand and pay its splice cost. If you do, add this card’s effects to that spell)


If Experimental Hydroburn was spliced onto an instant, that spell deals 3 damage to those creatures’ controller (in addition to its other effects), and you may treat the instant as if its Overload cost was paid.




Purplebackpack, the wording should be something along the lines of "If this spell is not named Experimental Hydroburn, it deals 3 damage to those creatures’ controller (in addition to its other effects), and you may treat the instant as if its Overload cost was paid." so that it would function if and only if you splice Hydroburn onto something else. There is a correct way to state it, but your way just doesn't work. For instance, let's say you splice it onto a Lightning Bolt . Lightning Bolt would now say:
"Lightning Bolt deals three damage to target creature or player. Tap two target creatures that share a controller. If Lightning Bolt was spliced onto an instant, that spell deals 3 damage to those creatures’ controller (in addition to its other effects), and you may treat the instant as if its Overload cost was paid." 
Remember, splice onto instant doesn't just mean "when you cast an instant, cast this as well without losing a card". The text of your splice is actually added to that spells of effect, and as such your wording doesn't.
In addition, you can't just give any random spell overload. In fact, Experimental Hydroburn itself wouldn't work if you spliced it, because it's text would become "Tap two each creatures that share a controler." which doesn't work at all. The bit which gives it an extra ability if it's spliced can be made to work, but your targeting format doesn't work with overload.
Finally, why are you giving mono blue burn? Or mono red Sleep ?


Why am I giving mono blue burn or mono red sleep?  Because my spell isn't powerful enough to justify it costing .  

And the part about "you may treat it is though the Overload cost was paid" is supposed to only apply to spells with Overload.  A spell that doesn't have an overload cost obviously can't be overloaded

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7 months ago  ::  Dec 10, 2012 - 11:08AM #34
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I'm disapointed in you people. You should know that splice onto instant would only be on sorceries... Otherwise you discourage playing any sorceries at all, which isn't what Izzet is about.

I wish I had known about this contest when it started... Oh well... 
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7 months ago  ::  Dec 10, 2012 - 11:19AM #35
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Ancestral Recall wouldn't be broken
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7 months ago  ::  Dec 10, 2012 - 11:23AM #36
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Date Joined: Apr 28, 2008
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Haven't noticed the thread, probably been lurking on second page. I thought about it briefly some days ago.

To some comment above, I'm not sure why I didn't make mine a sorcery, but it doesn't matter a whole lot I suppose.

Jan 18, 2012 -- 3:34AM, Imidazoline wrote:

Everything Mown does is elegant.


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7 months ago  ::  Dec 10, 2012 - 7:19PM #37
HairlessThoctar
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PEOPLE'S VOTE 

Second Place
Mown, 3-7-15-1-292, Turnip_Song - 1 vote each
+20 BRAGGING RIGHTS EACH  

First place
TherealphatMatt - 2 votes
+30 BRAGGING RIGHTS 

IceMetalPunk-Brilliant! Reveal an instant, splice, reveal an instant, splice, reve- WHAT FUN!
FirstTurnKill-I'm not sure this works as written, but I get what's its trying to do. Evasive beater that rewards you for playing instants. Pretty off the rails in a good way.
Purplebackpack89-Again, not sure this works as written, but I get what its trying to do. This really shouldn't be hybrid. Tapping isn't red, and direct damage isn't blue.
bay_falconer-Simple and to the point, but this could probably afford to be cheaper if Evermind is any precedent.
3-7-15-1-292 - Oh dear... This seems like all kinds of dangerous, but in a fun way.
TherealphatMatt - I had to double check to see if a card that refers to itself can be splice ( it can ). This card seems like an ideal example of less is more. Simple and elegant.
ConfusedAsUsual - Not sure a red splice should cantrip.
Glasir - Had to read that a couple of times to grasp it. Kind of a rules nightmare, but it probably does enough to warrant a slot as one of those wacky "what are you going to do with me" rares.
Tinkerermcmuffin- *A* I love it. It's like one of those Shadowmoor "If you paid A, do A thing, if you paid B, do B thing" without ever having to say so. Theatog - I'm rather fond of counters that counter without having to say 'counter'. This card is doing a lot of neat things.
Matt_Holck - Funcional, but a bit dull. I'm not sure why I would play this over Gitaxian Probe or Telepathy give the chance. EpicLevelCommoner-I will fully admit that I am too dull a person to work to make these sort of cards to work, but this card is entirely functional. That's a whole lot of digging.
cats_and_me-I was under the impression that this sort of thing was more white's shtick.
Ulcaster-Pretty uncommon for a flip coin to have both options be viable. I'm not sure if its a good idea or not, but I like the lessening of feel bad moments.
Fenix-I was thinking that this would also copy the spliced spells. Phooey. Either that or cast the copies so that you could splice some more. 
Turnip_Song- Seems on par .
Mown-Buyback for everything! 4 is probably the minimum safe cost for this sort of thing. 

JUDGE'S VOTE

Third place, +10 BRAGGING RIGHTS
 IceMetalPunk
I'm not sure that splice cost is right on, but this seems like a beautiful dream to reach. Playing a cheap instant, splicing this into an instant, splicing that onto an instant.
  
Second place, +20 BRAGGING RIGHTS
TherealphatMatt
Incredibly simple, sublimely elegant.

First place, +30 BRAGGING RIGHTS
Tinkermcmuffin
This card speaks to me. It splices, it dices, it rewards blue for being blue and red for being red.

Congrats to our winners, and thank you to everyone who played!
Let me know what you thought of the contest! 
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7 months ago  ::  Dec 10, 2012 - 8:49PM #38
3-7-15-1-292
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Aw yeah, 20 bragging points! Woo! 
Since you asked for comments, I have one suggestion: a concrete rating, like 8/10, is a nice addition to the subjective comments.
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