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6 months ago  ::  Dec 02, 2012 - 11:52PM #1
Degredations_Jr
Date Joined: Nov 4, 2012
Posts: 29
I went to my local store owner and he helped me switch from my Rakdos deck to pure red because I couldnt afford Dragonskull Summits and Shock Lands. this is my current decklist, any help is appreciated I have a lot of cards but not sure what to use, I also have no sideboard.

Creatures
3x Bloodfray Giant
4x Rackdos Cackler
4x Stormkirk Noble
4x Ash Zealot
2x Hellrider
4x Gore-House Chainwalker
2x Zealous Conscripts
4x Rakdos Shred-Freak

Instants/Sorceries
4x Searing Spear
4x Brimstone Volley
4x Pillar of Flame

1x Helilion Crucible
20x Mountains 
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 02, 2012 - 11:57PM #2
CarbonatedSoda
Date Joined: Jun 30, 2012
Posts: 398
-3 Bloodfray giant
-2 zealous conscripts
-4 Rakdos shred-freak


+1 Hellrider
+3 Pyreheart Wolf
+4 Lightning Mauler

And then I'd probably add another hellion crucible. I'd also put in Thundermaw Hellkite but if you can't afford Bloodcrypts or dragonskulls, you definetly can't afford those.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 03, 2012 - 12:04AM #3
Degredations_Jr
Date Joined: Nov 4, 2012
Posts: 29
I've heard about Pyreheart Wolf and Lightning Mauler, but I can't really see the usefulness. I'm still pretty new to the game though. And I agree about the Hellrider, I need to get another.
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 03, 2012 - 1:13AM #4
CarbonatedSoda
Date Joined: Jun 30, 2012
Posts: 398

Dec 3, 2012 -- 12:04AM, Degredations_Jr wrote:

I've heard about Pyreheart Wolf and Lightning Mauler, but I can't really see the usefulness. I'm still pretty new to the game though. And I agree about the Hellrider, I need to get another.



Pyreheart gets through big blockers you can't necessarily deal with easily. Thragtusk is a big reason. It's undying also makes it harder to remove.

Lightning mauler I see it, is basically much like Rakdos shredfreak but not useful alone. However you could easily drop him and a Cackler and pair them and on that same turn be swinging with both instead of with Shredfreak just swinging with himself.

I'm not sure myself on 3 or 4 Hellriders. I run 3 and periodicly argue about a 4th. Conscripts is useful but with 21 mana it'll be very very difficult to ever get them out consistently. I also kind of like Bloodfray Giant but he's admittedly not as good as other things you could replace him with.

You could also consider Vexing Devil . Though I myself tend to be torn on them and go back and forth between using them and not. Some people love them and others find them not too useful.

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6 months ago  ::  Dec 03, 2012 - 1:18AM #5
Degredations_Jr
Date Joined: Nov 4, 2012
Posts: 29
Oh ok I totally see now how the Mauler could be better than Shred Freak. Are Stonewrights any good?
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 03, 2012 - 1:22AM #6
CarbonatedSoda
Date Joined: Jun 30, 2012
Posts: 398

Dec 3, 2012 -- 1:18AM, Degredations_Jr wrote:

Oh ok I totally see now how the Mauler could be better than Shred Freak. Are Stonewrights any good?



Generally so. I don't run them but other people do. They're a worthwhile card.

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6 months ago  ::  Dec 03, 2012 - 1:50AM #7
Degredations_Jr
Date Joined: Nov 4, 2012
Posts: 29
Oh ok. So between these two, and not including the sideboard, which would be overall better in your opinion? (left sides are the same)

4 Ash Zealot    ---      2 Zealous Conscripts
4 Hellrider       ---      4 Gore HouseChainwalker
3 Stonewright   ---    4 Brimstone Volley
4 Rakdos Cackler --- 22 Mountains
4 Searing Spear   --- 1 Hellion Crucible
4 Stormkirk Noble
4 Pillar of Flame

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4 Ash Zealot    ---       3 Pyreheart Wolf
4 Hellrider       ---        4 Lightning Mauler
3 Stonewright   ---      3 Brimstone Volley
4 Rackdos Cackler ---  21 Mountains
4 Searing Spear   ---   2 Hellion Crucible
4 Stormkirk Noble
4 Pillar of Flame
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 03, 2012 - 5:07AM #8
CarbonatedSoda
Date Joined: Jun 30, 2012
Posts: 398

Dec 3, 2012 -- 1:50AM, Degredations_Jr wrote:

Oh ok. So between these two, and not including the sideboard, which would be overall better in your opinion? (left sides are the same)

4 Ash Zealot    ---      2 Zealous Conscripts
4 Hellrider       ---      4 Gore HouseChainwalker
3 Stonewright   ---    4 Brimstone Volley
4 Rakdos Cackler --- 22 Mountains
4 Searing Spear   --- 1 Hellion Crucible
4 Stormkirk Noble
4 Pillar of Flame

OR
 
4 Ash Zealot    ---       3 Pyreheart Wolf
4 Hellrider       ---        4 Lightning Mauler
3 Stonewright   ---      3 Brimstone Volley
4 Rackdos Cackler ---  21 Mountains
4 Searing Spear   ---   2 Hellion Crucible
4 Stormkirk Noble
4 Pillar of Flame




I'd go with the second one.

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6 months ago  ::  Dec 03, 2012 - 6:20AM #9
stepintherift
Date Joined: Oct 22, 2012
Posts: 32
You should reaaally consider Furor of the Bitten . Besides giving 2 power, It also places your dudes outside the range of searing spear, pillar of flame, tragic slip etc. Needless to say, it has a great synergy with your creatures. If you equip it on an Ash Zealot, you get 4/4 with first strike, which is enough to pass through most blockers; It also helpes ou getting that Stromkirk Noble pumped faster.

Also, you can't go wrong with Pyreheart Wolf . he is pretty much a win condition on its own. I say you should play at least 2 of them (preferably 3, but thats up to you, as his cost may slow you down a bit).

I would also run a couple of Mark of Mutiny or Traitorous Blood in the mainboard, as there is almost always a creature you want to steal by turn 3 or 4. Remove them if you are matched against control, though.

4 Stromkirk Noble is overkill. He is only really good if you play him on turn 1. I'd say 2 is enough.

Again, 4 Hellrider is too much. I you get to play 1 once a game, you should consider yourself lucky. Plus, the turn he hits the board is most likely the turn you win, so I would say running 3 is enough.

Hellion Crucible is not a bad card, it's just that it's soooo slow. I would move it to the sideboard and only play it if i'm facing a control deck. Those games can really drag out... In the mainboard I would play a Stonewright or two. 

Lose the Bloodfray Giants and the Zealous Conscripts. They're just not verry good. You would be better of with Hellrider , Archwing Dragon or Thundermaw Hellkite .
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6 months ago  ::  Dec 03, 2012 - 7:44AM #10
Anubuss
Date Joined: Mar 9, 2007
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Dec 3, 2012 -- 6:20AM, stepintherift wrote:

4 Stromkirk Noble is overkill. He is only really good if you play him on turn 1. I'd say 2 is enough.




That's a very bad justification at cutting 2 Nobles.  If he's only good on turn 1, you want to maximize your chances at playing him turn 1, which is to have him at 4.  His can't be blocked by humans can actually be relevent, so he's not such a bad creature.  He slips by Knight of Infamy in RB Aggro, and being a Vampire saves him from Victim of the Night which is gaining in popularity.  He also draws removal fairly early since he can get pretty big.  He's only a bad draw after turn 3, but really, and 1 drop is going to be bad at that point, aside from Vexing Devil.


   
   
   
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