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6 months ago  ::  Nov 30, 2012 - 12:29PM #1
BUoy
Date Joined: Nov 21, 2012
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Seeing the state of Magic as it is now and how it has been forever i have little interest in anything but pauper format. Its too much of "who spends more wins" and while i understand card price is fueled by demand, it does not solve the problem of the rares and more importantly the mythic rares.  How anyone can see this as anything but a cash grab on the part of wizards is delusional. Even at FNMs now i see many people with a whole deck of rares. I see the decks played and i see very little real strategy. And despite what some people think metagaming is NOT strategy ( it isnt, there IS a difference). Theres nothing creative about using a card like Armada worm A trained monkey can win with a tamiyo/jace architect control deck. ]Essentially these cards dumb down the game. end of story. No cunning, knowledge, or skill is needed to win in standard. just having the right(the most rare) cards guarantees victory. Argue my logic all you want, but what is obvious is obvious an no amount of spin on your part can change that. And if it is not obvious now, then i invite you to make the best deck you can with only commons and see of you win a single round. Wizards broke the game to make more money essentially which i completely understand because when you already have hundreds of millions of dollars, you obviously need more. I mean, come on. you cant live without a solid gold toilet seat can you?

So rather than subject myself to continuing anguish at the hands of people who dont really like the game of magic in and of itself, who rather just want to win at something to temporarily heal their deep seeded insecirities. I will stick to casual. because games should be fun, and not a contest for emotionally stunted people to buy a feeling of accomplishment without actually having to do something relevant to get it, I am simply giving standard the finger. Its the kind of contest where even if you win, you're still a loser because you spent $200 on a deck of cards.

So im going to try and start a pauper league. And if that fails, play pauper online. because magic with rares and mythics allowed is a ridculous "buy your way to victory" game. But eliminate the cash grab cards an magic is just fine and still fun to play. so im doing that until wizards stops being so greedy.

Maybe some sunny day wizards will stop being greedy and actually design a balanced game. But no one will notice because every one will be doging the airborne feces from the flying pigs.


I wonder how long it will take for this to get shut down and me get banned. My bet is less than five minutes. If it does happen, goodbye in advance. Im sure there are alot of nice people here.






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6 months ago  ::  Nov 30, 2012 - 12:54PM #2
EyeballFrog
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Play red.  Burn spells and cheap creatures tend to be commons and uncommons.
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6 months ago  ::  Nov 30, 2012 - 1:02PM #3
TzarChasm
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Until you run into someone packing 4x Bonfire of the Damned , which, last I checked, were hovering between $30-50 apiece.
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6 months ago  ::  Nov 30, 2012 - 1:09PM #4
PanteraCanes
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So you want cards to be cheaper and not at the rare/mythis slot, so people have less incentive to open packs, so they sell less packs, so they make less money, so they go out of business, so you don't have anybody making the game you like?

If this is FNM you can probably just thow together what you have along with some commons and uncommons and figure out a deck to play and do pretty well.  If you focus more on being a better player and deck builder then you can overcome needing the more expensive decks.

Personally I like it when there is only a few decks everyone is playing so then I can make something that they can't handle.
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6 months ago  ::  Nov 30, 2012 - 1:10PM #5
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Nov 30, 2012 -- 1:02PM, TzarChasm wrote:

Until you run into someone packing 4x Bonfire of the Damned , which, last I checked, were hovering between $30-50 apiece.




$25. And that's using SCG which always has somewhat inflated prices.

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6 months ago  ::  Nov 30, 2012 - 1:17PM #6
TzarChasm
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Only $25 now?  That sucks, because when I pulled the one and only copy I've ever owned it was $50.
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6 months ago  ::  Nov 30, 2012 - 1:19PM #7
BUoy
Date Joined: Nov 21, 2012
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Playing red as you put it, Eyeball Frog, Does not work and it is a common myth that it does. burn is usless in standard especially now, since there are no good cheap burn spells and anything good is a rare or mythic. and cheap creatures just get board wiped by rares and mythics like terminus or planar cleansing and so on.

My argument is that the game is either badly designed due to incompetence or is Well designed to favor those who spend more money.

The old addage "play a cheap speed deck" is comepletely false. they only win by luck. I want a game where strategy wins not luck. Winning by luck is what we have in standard right now.  

Standard is simply broken. The only way to rebalance the game i see without completely redesigning it would be to elimnate the rares, mythics, and unforunatley the uncommons as well from the game. without the cash grab broken fluff we are left with the core of magic which is still a good game in spite of wizard's seemingly deliberate campaign to destroy it.
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6 months ago  ::  Nov 30, 2012 - 1:23PM #8
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It sounds like the entire genre of CCGs is not for you. Most other genres of games are games you buy "complete". While there is considerably more skill involved in playing Magic than you are inferring, it certainly does require you to spend enough to have the best cards. This is not a fault of the game, but inherent to the genre.

Also, I am somewhat peeved at the final comment in your post. People do not get banned, nor posts removed, for criticizing Magic.
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6 months ago  ::  Nov 30, 2012 - 1:27PM #9
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Nov 30, 2012 -- 1:17PM, TzarChasm wrote:

Only $25 now? That sucks, because when I pulled the one and only copy I've ever owned it was $50.



 
The 9 I've pulled have gone down that much in value?  Where do I complain to wizzards to stop printing them in that set and put them on the do not print list so others can't enjoy it to just so mine stays high in value?

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6 months ago  ::  Nov 30, 2012 - 1:34PM #10
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Dear god, how much AVR have you opened?

OP: Wait for Gatecrash, there'll be good red 1-drops from Boros and Gruul.
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