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5 months ago ::
Jan 05, 2013 - 7:22AM
#581
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Date Joined:
Mar 30, 2010
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It's not bad, but there are many ways to play around it, remove it temporarily during the lethal attack or simply destroy it. Pelakka is usually better.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 05, 2013 - 9:37AM
#582
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Date Joined:
Oct 28, 2005
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5 months ago ::
Jan 05, 2013 - 12:34PM
#583
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Date Joined:
Mar 30, 2010
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Removal is just as good as life loss, hell even bounce is good enough. You can snakeform that thing... you get the idea. At least Pelakka has an EtB benefit and replaces itself when it gets removed. It's just better than Elderscale 90% of the time.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 06, 2013 - 8:06PM
#584
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Date Joined:
Dec 11, 2012
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I really enjoy playing this deck, it's one of my top 2 decks, along with SS. I play it with alot of the smaller creatures, as they all have some type of ETB effect, lifelink, or something that makes them a threat other than just their body. I play it almost like an aggro deck, which is extremely effective since a majority of creatures in the deck can fly. Here's what I run:
| "Orzhov Aggro" |
61 Cards. 24 Lands (10 11 ; 3 other). |
| A library for Grim Procession (Orzhov) |
| Library code: ((((((((~~?hwfxZ~~Orzhov Aggro~~3Bj617C~~2=lbZjt~~3BUz?b5~~2Bxo64R~~2BbS4j2~~4=WKXnG~~1?l9WRz~~2?a6xzS~~1=BJir8~~3AnLyVS~~2?NLvWe~~1Bk4BHu~~3?2vriJ~~1?FIiaa~~2?v8zme~~2BPzyHV~~2?eRa66~~1A2XD3A~~1A8QlSt~~1==WM18~~1=cHoB1~~)))))))) |
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The strategy isn't too hard here. Play it basically like an aggro deck. It's not exactly the fastest aggro strategy, but almost everything has flying or lifelink, and you still have alot of removal options. Zealous Persecution absolutely rapes some of the actual aggro decks, and damnation is good at that too. Bloodgift Demon and Angel of Alabaster generate some card advantage, and all the creatures are solid. I'm not sure there is a better 2 drop in the game than Castigate, and Restless apparition is one of the most underrated cards in the deck. I see alot of people leaving it out, but it's one of the MVPs in my opinion. Any creature that you have to kill twice is good, not to mention it's playable/pumpable with either color of mana. I include them both for sure. This is a great deck, and playing it with this build gives you plenty of creatures to slow down early rushes. One of my favorite tricks is to play a Voracious hatchling and then Zealous Persecution during combat to make it a 5/5 out of nowhere. I've ended games plenty of times using just that combo. Notable exclusions: Debtor's Knell: I almost never get to play it in 1v1 (You would not believe how many times I've had this in my hand and got stuck at 6 lands), and it gets removed every time in 2HG. Wins the game if left out there, but just too inconsistent. 2 of the Pillories: 4 is just too many. I was going for more creatures, less control, and Pillory is nice, but I don't need 4 of them. Ob Nixilis: Again, the 5 drop has a lot of tough competition in this deck, and it's just not quite as good as Bloodgift, Divinity, or Liege. That's about it really, only 30 unlocks, so not as much variety as the 15 original decks. I'd say this is a top 3 deck in 1v1 for sure, and I have a really great win percentage with it.
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5 months ago ::
Jan 08, 2013 - 9:28AM
#585
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Date Joined:
Apr 23, 2012
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You never want to play Ob on turn 5 anyway so he doesn't actually compete with the other 5 drops. Granted I would've preferred a actual 6 drop compared to a 5 that wants to be a 6+, but Ob's not too shabby as a 6, especially if you just happen to have a terramorphic in your hand. Although on a strange note I find that he does compete with Restless Apparition. Not in deck space, but in play. See with the apparition you want to play a land every turn to make sure you can pump him as much as possible, but with Ob you want to hold all your extra lands to make sure you can use his landfall. Which is annoying because I do like both cards but they don't seem to like each other.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 23, 2013 - 9:58AM
#586
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Date Joined:
Jan 24, 2012
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Was just looking at Gatecrash, and not saying there should be promos. I would actually remove Ghost Council and Vish to include Lord of the Void  and Obzedat, Ghost Council  . Just saying.
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. - Mark Twain IS DOESNT EVEN WORTH 6 EUROS!!! - LittleLouLou Change is Coming! - thedevilwuster My YouTube Channel
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4 months ago ::
Jan 23, 2013 - 10:52PM
#587
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Date Joined:
Apr 23, 2012
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Was just looking at Gatecrash, and not saying there should be promos. I would actually remove Ghost Council and Vish to include Lord of the Void and Obzedat, Ghost Council . Just saying.
Deck doesn't need anymore 5 drops. :p Although I would gladly give up either angel for it. Besides I would love to play both of them just for flavor. 
LOTV is pretty neat, but I think I like Vish a better theme wise. Void seems more of a dimir card anyway.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 24, 2013 - 5:20AM
#588
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Date Joined:
Jul 12, 2012
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The Ghost Council is better than Obzedat by a large margin. The Ghost Council's main utility is it's ability to exile itself during the opponent's turn, in response to something like a RoR. Obzedat has a lot of advantages the Ghost Council lacks, but against Talrand, DP, or AS, isn't very useful - because the ability has to be used at the end of your turn. The Ghost Council shuts down RoR, Mind Control, Clone, or any other creature-based control.
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4 months ago ::
Jan 24, 2013 - 8:47AM
#589
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Date Joined:
Jan 24, 2012
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The Ghost Council is better than Obzedat by a large margin. The Ghost Council's main utility is it's ability to exile itself during the opponent's turn, in response to something like a RoR. Obzedat has a lot of advantages the Ghost Council lacks, but against Talrand, DP, or AS, isn't very useful - because the ability has to be used at the end of your turn. The Ghost Council shuts down RoR, Mind Control, Clone, or any other creature-based control.
Yes I do love Ghost Council and it's ability to shut down a RoR, it's just Obzedat cried out to me for inclusion.
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. - Mark Twain IS DOESNT EVEN WORTH 6 EUROS!!! - LittleLouLou Change is Coming! - thedevilwuster My YouTube Channel
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4 months ago ::
Jan 26, 2013 - 6:14PM
#590
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I havent read this whole board so not sure if anyones asked about the tainted sigil yet.. but is it supposed to give double life in 2hg? Enemy team was at 20 I swung for 18 putting them down to 2 then he popped the sigil and they went up to 38 or something. Wassup with that?
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