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6 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 3:19PM
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I have a green white token deck and it is just super chunky. I think I just need some advice on what to cut or what to add. If I can keep it lower cost, thatd be great!  Spells x 20 ____________________ Growing Ranks  x2 Common Bond  x2 Call of the Conclave  x4 Trostani's Judgment  x2 Sundering Growth  x2 Selesnya Charm  x2 Druid's Deliverance  x2 Rootborn Defenses  x2 Giant Growth  x2 Creatures x24 ___________________ Seller of Songbirds  x3 Avacyn's Pilgrim  x1 (thinking about trading out the Seller for another) Attended Knight  x2 Wayfaring Temple  x2 Vitu-Ghazi Guildmage  x2 Centaur Healer  x4 (there are so many because I feel its a solid 3/3 for 3 +3 life) Oak Street Innkeeper  x2 Centaur's Herald  x4 Phantom General  x1 Loxodon Smiter  x1 Thragtusk  x1 Trostani, Selesnya's Voice  x1 Planeswalker x1 ________________________ Garruk Wildspeaker  x1 (other than him, I am trying to keep it pretty standard) Land x20 _________________________ Grove of the Guardian  x1 Selesnya Guildgate  x2 Forest  x9 Plains  x8
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6 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 3:41PM
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Date Joined:
Feb 28, 2011
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selesnya charm to 4
common bond and seller of sonbirds both bad cards
hannttom general works better with small tokens
trostani's judgment is a little high on the curve, and growing ranks a little slow.
id either take then out and replace with 4-of of the instant populate spells or gear the deck better for late game, getting better tokens - sadly the best are freakin $$ so on a budget i think the midagro is most viable
2-3 intangible virtue would be great.
anyway, the main advice would be that if you want to play populate build around it. make sure you have a token and get plenty of ways to populate.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 4:00PM
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Date Joined:
Jun 14, 2006
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If I was simply making cuts and not adding anything (fixing the land to spell ratio) I would remove seller of songbirds  , phantom general  , oak street innkeeper  , giant growth  , common bond  . This puts you at 55 spells add 3 forest  and 2 plains  to make 60 cards. This will help the deck out immensely although there are some other things that you could continue to improve (for instance oblivion ring  over trostani's judgment  ).
Don't be too smart to have fun
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6 months ago ::
Nov 21, 2012 - 8:50AM
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There are actually two routes you can go with selesnya tokens. You can go Tall with: Trostani, Selesnya's Voice Call of the Conclave Selesnya Charm Centaur's Herald and populate mechanics to take advantage of meatier tokens (2/2's and 3/3's). In this build, you want to focus on generating tokens that are great to populate. 3/3 centaurs come to mind, and 2/2 knights aren't shabby either. Or you can go Wide with: Intangible Virtue  Phantom General Midnight Haunting  Gavony Township  This build, on the other hand, looks to make the most tokens/card possible, and then make them bigger with +1/+1 effects. Both build have their merits. Going with Populate means you are making tokens that are fine by themselves, but are a bit slower to overwhelm your opponent. Going with the +1/+1 route gives you a faster deck, but it is very weak to Detention Sphere  and sever the bloodline  . Additionally, loosing any pump effect (or not finding one to begin with), means you are stuck with an army of 1/1s. Picking one of these and evaluating each card based on how well it works in that type of deck will help you weed cards out. You look like you are closer to the populate side of things, so the first thing I would do is get rid of anything that makes only 1/1's, and bump up Selesnya charm to 4. Phantom general can stay, since he only cares about tokens. I would also get Rootborn Defenses up to 4, as this is the most useful populate card. Trostani's Judgement and Sundering Growth are situational at best, and shouldn't be included just because they have populate on them. They are better in the sideboard to answer very specific threats. Hope that helps!
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6 months ago ::
Nov 22, 2012 - 6:58PM
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Date Joined:
Nov 17, 2012
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You've helped me so much that it's time for me to help you. Here's the BEST card combination of Green White I've ever seen for token decks. Midnight Guard  .... wait for it.... equipped with Presence of Gond  . Instant infinite elves. Also, maybe think about a Parallel Lives  ? Just a suggestion.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 22, 2012 - 9:33PM
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Aw thank you! We have just one Parallel Lives and at the moment it resides within my husband's insect token deck, but as soon as I get more, I will be sure to add them in :D
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6 months ago ::
Nov 23, 2012 - 8:14AM
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Date Joined:
Oct 27, 2007
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Aw thank you! We have just one Parallel Lives and at the moment it resides within my husband's insect token deck, but as soon as I get more, I will be sure to add them in :D
Parallel Lives looks very good, but in practice often turns out to be too slow.
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6 months ago ::
Nov 23, 2012 - 9:03AM
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Date Joined:
Sep 16, 2009
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The same sort of thing has existed for quite a while, though in the form of 
