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7 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 2:41AM
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Is there any chance of Metalcraft being brought back into Magic?
Are there any other abilities that people would like to see again such as Rampage and Banding?
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7 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 2:50AM
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Date Joined:
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there's a chance for Metalcraft and Rampage
but it will take a few years at least
Banding will never come back
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7 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 3:24AM
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Don't understand why rampage didn't stick around. It's easy to understand and it feels right for green and red.
Borrowing the East Wind  (P3) - Haha, it's like Hurricane  but for horsemanship? That makes hilariously little sense. "Oh man, the wind is so much worse up on this horse."
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7 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 4:03AM
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- Celestial Teapots are broken!
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The problem with rampage is that it almost never actually matters. The cases where the opponent would gang-block are already pretty rare. And even in those cases, rampage doesn't actually mean "the creature gets huge and kills all its blockers"; it means "your opponent won't gang-block the creature".
If anything, they're more likely to use a version of the ability that boosts the creature for each creature blocking it, rather than each creature beyond the first.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 4:11AM
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I'd rather see Two-headed Sliver  's or Nacatl War-Pride  's first ability keyworded than see Rampage back. Flanking and Bushido do Rampage's job of making double blocking unfavourable far better than Rampage does.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 4:44AM
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I'd rather see Two-headed Sliver 's or Nacatl War-Pride 's first ability keyworded than see Rampage back. Flanking and Bushido do Rampage's job of making double blocking unfavourable far better than Rampage does.
The can only be blocked by abilities have a similar ends but with much less design space, they also don't feel flavorful like rampage does. Rampage being so narrow means it can be a 0 cost effect (on the good cards of course) and allows for more effective design room for lure effects, which is something I could see red also getting as it is the color of emotions, and fury. Bushido and Flanking feel more white/black to me, structured and civilized. Rampage is just angry nasty beasts getting bigger, and angrier.
It's not like Red and Green couldn't use more design space.
Borrowing the East Wind (P3) - Haha, it's like Hurricane but for horsemanship? That makes hilariously little sense. "Oh man, the wind is so much worse up on this horse."
Jon Finkel can win a Magic tournament with a ham sandwich. That doesn't mean ham sandwiches are now the metagame breaker.
Koth: I'm the first viable red planeswalker. Who are you?
Tibalt: I'm a two-mana red planeswalker.
Koth: I'm the last viable red planeswalker.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 11:11AM
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Don't understand why rampage didn't stick around. It's easy to understand and it feels right for green and red.
It was intended as a banding hoser. Also, there's the "first one is free" aspect of rampage.
What I don't get is why flanking wasn't written as flanking 1.
Yeah, I'd say metalcraft is about a 7 on the storm scale. (Likelihood of this coming back. Cycling is 1, storm is 10.) It's boring, but it doesn't really add needless complexity, and it's hard to really break (unlike affinity), so it might be back.
Banding's right up there with storm, but for "needless complexity" reasons rather than "how did the dev team not catch this?" reasons. Bands with other breaks my stormometer.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 11:59AM
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Yeah, I'd say metalcraft is about a 7 on the storm scale. (Likelihood of this coming back. Cycling is 1, storm is 10.) It's boring, but it doesn't really add needless complexity, and it's hard to really break (unlike affinity), so it might be back.
For reference, MaRo algo gives it a 7.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 20, 2012 - 12:56PM
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Yeah, I'd say metalcraft is about a 7 on the storm scale. (Likelihood of this coming back. Cycling is 1, storm is 10.) It's boring, but it doesn't really add needless complexity, and it's hard to really break (unlike affinity), so it might be back.
For reference, MaRo algo gives it a 7.
Thanks. Yeah, I remembered "banding is a 10, bands with other is an 11". I sometimes remember his Tumblr posts, but I don't take the time to link to them.
Again, the Storm Scale is subjective.
Clever deduction Watson! Maybe you can explain why Supergirl is trying to kill me.
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