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6 months ago  ::  Nov 20, 2012 - 2:52AM #11
desolation_masticore
Date Joined: Dec 5, 2010
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Nov 19, 2012 -- 7:53PM, DragonsWrath wrote:

I must say, I appreciate the comparison.

I'm much too lazy to do all the research and stuff myself, but your descriptions were clear.  It's interesting to see things like this on occasion.  

Also:  OMG, the rarity system makes my head spin every time someone mentions it. 



Really? It all boils down to "SHINY!!!!".

Dec 20, 2010 -- 2:16PM, CommanderJim wrote:

Borrowing the East Wind (P3) - Haha, it's like Hurricane but for horsemanship? That makes hilariously little sense. "Oh man, the wind is so much worse up on this horse."


Jun 21, 2011 -- 1:22PM, MTGKaioshin wrote:

Jon Finkel can win a Magic tournament with a ham sandwich. That doesn't mean ham sandwiches are now the metagame breaker.


Sep 17, 2012 -- 12:33PM, bay_falconer wrote:


Koth: I'm the first viable red planeswalker. Who are you?
Tibalt: I'm a two-mana red planeswalker.
Koth: I'm the last viable red planeswalker.

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6 months ago  ::  Nov 20, 2012 - 4:21AM #12
Ihss
Date Joined: Jul 2, 2011
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I used to play Yu-gi-oh. Then Yata-garasu came out. After a few casual matches of getting pecked to death I quit. I don't understand how someone could make a card like that and not see a problem with it. It's like Stasis combined with Black Vise without the upkeep cost.
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6 months ago  ::  Nov 20, 2012 - 4:55AM #13
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Nov 20, 2012 -- 4:21AM, Ihss wrote:

I used to play Yu-gi-oh. Then Yata-garasu came out. After a few casual matches of getting pecked to death I quit. I don't understand how someone could make a card like that and not see a problem with it. It's like Stasis combined with Black Vise without the upkeep cost.



Black Lotus , Time Walk , Ancestral Recall , Timetwister , Moxen. Everyone makes mistakes. They have learned and moved on since then, or so someone previous has said.

Funny thing is Wizards thought that Lightning Bolt = Ancestral Recall = Healing Salve = Giant Growth = Dark Ritual when they made them. Or at least, they had the gall to call that a cycle. Poor white always gets the shaft...

Dec 20, 2010 -- 2:16PM, CommanderJim wrote:

Borrowing the East Wind (P3) - Haha, it's like Hurricane but for horsemanship? That makes hilariously little sense. "Oh man, the wind is so much worse up on this horse."


Jun 21, 2011 -- 1:22PM, MTGKaioshin wrote:

Jon Finkel can win a Magic tournament with a ham sandwich. That doesn't mean ham sandwiches are now the metagame breaker.


Sep 17, 2012 -- 12:33PM, bay_falconer wrote:


Koth: I'm the first viable red planeswalker. Who are you?
Tibalt: I'm a two-mana red planeswalker.
Koth: I'm the last viable red planeswalker.

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6 months ago  ::  Nov 20, 2012 - 5:32AM #14
will_dice
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Nov 20, 2012 -- 4:55AM, desolation_masticore wrote:

Funny thing is Wizards thought that Lightning Bolt = Ancestral Recall = Healing Salve = Giant Growth = Dark Ritual when they made them. Or at least, they had the gall to call that a cycle. Poor white always gets the shaft...




Well, the did made Ancestral Recall rare and the others commons...

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6 months ago  ::  Nov 20, 2012 - 5:43AM #15
desolation_masticore
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Nov 20, 2012 -- 5:32AM, will_dice wrote:

Nov 20, 2012 -- 4:55AM, desolation_masticore wrote:

Funny thing is Wizards thought that Lightning Bolt = Ancestral Recall = Healing Salve = Giant Growth = Dark Ritual when they made them. Or at least, they had the gall to call that a cycle. Poor white always gets the shaft...




Well, the did made Ancestral Recall rare and the others commons...



If it's not shiny how can you tell? :P

Dec 20, 2010 -- 2:16PM, CommanderJim wrote:

Borrowing the East Wind (P3) - Haha, it's like Hurricane but for horsemanship? That makes hilariously little sense. "Oh man, the wind is so much worse up on this horse."


Jun 21, 2011 -- 1:22PM, MTGKaioshin wrote:

Jon Finkel can win a Magic tournament with a ham sandwich. That doesn't mean ham sandwiches are now the metagame breaker.


Sep 17, 2012 -- 12:33PM, bay_falconer wrote:


Koth: I'm the first viable red planeswalker. Who are you?
Tibalt: I'm a two-mana red planeswalker.
Koth: I'm the last viable red planeswalker.

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6 months ago  ::  Nov 20, 2012 - 6:41AM #16
PirateAmmo
Date Joined: Jul 7, 2010
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Parts of Yu-Gi-Oh! are similar to Magic before the Sixth Edition rules change.

When multiple things need to happen at the same time in Yu-Gi-Oh! they create a chain. Chains are like batches from Magic. They resolve all at once, and you cannot add new things once they start to resolve.

Spell speed 3 cards in Yu-Gi-Oh! are like interupts. You can only respond to a spell speed 3 card with another spell speed 3 card.

There are also special windows for certain types of effects in Yu-Gi-Oh! like the damage prevention window in Magic. Certain cards that boost attack can be used during Damage Calculation when usually cards cannot be played.
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6 months ago  ::  Nov 20, 2012 - 11:06AM #17
bay_falconer
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"Arguably easier to get into"? Yeah, I'm sure it's easy to, if you can get a Pot of Greed or Monster Reborn or whatever. See, getting into Magic doesn't require you buy a playset of the 10 original duals, another playset of shocklands, a playset of painlands, the Power Nine, Channel , Demonic Tutor , Balance , Yawgmoth's Will , Necropotence , Earthcraft , Goblin Welder , Animate Dead , Entomb , the Tolarian Academy cycle, Masticore , Lin Sivvi, Defiant Hero , Survival of the Fittest , Force of Will , Arcbound Ravager , insert other famously broken card. The lack of rotation changes things, a lot.

I'd say the racial makeup is slightly more diverse. Koth's ambiguously brown. Teferi's black. Grizzled Outcasts . Obviously, not that much different, but still...

Jun 27, 2012 -- 12:04AM, GM_Champion wrote:

Clever deduction Watson! Maybe you can explain why Supergirl is trying to kill me.


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[c]Lightning Bolt[/c]
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6 months ago  ::  Nov 20, 2012 - 1:47PM #18
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Nov 19, 2012 -- 7:34PM, fcchambers wrote:

This was cool and all... But I really would like to see a Magic/Munchkin comparison... 



Stall until two players hit level 9. Everyone exhaust their resources ensuring the first one doesn't win, leaving nothing to counter the second player. If he flips a creature, game over. Otherwise, repeat.

Jan 18, 2012 -- 3:34AM, Imidazoline wrote:

Everything Mown does is elegant.


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6 months ago  ::  Nov 20, 2012 - 2:59PM #19
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Nov 20, 2012 -- 11:06AM, bay_falconer wrote:

"Arguably easier to get into"? Yeah, I'm sure it's easy to, if you can get a Pot of Greed or Monster Reborn or whatever. See, getting into Magic doesn't require you buy a playset of the 10 original duals, another playset of shocklands, a playset of painlands, the Power Nine, Channel , Demonic Tutor , Balance , Yawgmoth's Will , Necropotence , Earthcraft , Goblin Welder , Animate Dead , Entomb , the Tolarian Academy cycle, Masticore , Lin Sivvi, Defiant Hero , Survival of the Fittest , Force of Will , Arcbound Ravager , insert other famously broken card. The lack of rotation changes things, a lot.

I'd say the racial makeup is slightly more diverse. Koth's ambiguously brown. Teferi's black. Grizzled Outcasts . Obviously, not that much different, but still...



Staples are incredibly easy to get one's hands on as they have been reprinted many, many times.

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Legendary Creature - Boar Knight
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When this creature dies, return him to play and transform him.
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B: Regenerate this creature.
When this creature is the target of a white spell, transform this creature.
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6 months ago  ::  Nov 21, 2012 - 3:58AM #20
desolation_masticore
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Nov 20, 2012 -- 2:59PM, pigknight wrote:

Nov 20, 2012 -- 11:06AM, bay_falconer wrote:

"Arguably easier to get into"? Yeah, I'm sure it's easy to, if you can get a Pot of Greed or Monster Reborn or whatever. See, getting into Magic doesn't require you buy a playset of the 10 original duals, another playset of shocklands, a playset of painlands, the Power Nine, Channel , Demonic Tutor , Balance , Yawgmoth's Will , Necropotence , Earthcraft , Goblin Welder , Animate Dead , Entomb , the Tolarian Academy cycle, Masticore , Lin Sivvi, Defiant Hero , Survival of the Fittest , Force of Will , Arcbound Ravager , insert other famously broken card. The lack of rotation changes things, a lot.

I'd say the racial makeup is slightly more diverse. Koth's ambiguously brown. Teferi's black. Grizzled Outcasts . Obviously, not that much different, but still...



Staples are incredibly easy to get one's hands on as they have been reprinted many, many times.



Not only that but usually when you get into a game you start casual. It isn't typical to get into magic by assembling a $5,000 Legacy deck.

Dec 20, 2010 -- 2:16PM, CommanderJim wrote:

Borrowing the East Wind (P3) - Haha, it's like Hurricane but for horsemanship? That makes hilariously little sense. "Oh man, the wind is so much worse up on this horse."


Jun 21, 2011 -- 1:22PM, MTGKaioshin wrote:

Jon Finkel can win a Magic tournament with a ham sandwich. That doesn't mean ham sandwiches are now the metagame breaker.


Sep 17, 2012 -- 12:33PM, bay_falconer wrote:


Koth: I'm the first viable red planeswalker. Who are you?
Tibalt: I'm a two-mana red planeswalker.
Koth: I'm the last viable red planeswalker.

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