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7 months ago  ::  Nov 19, 2012 - 6:19AM #1
Rpetiger
Date Joined: Nov 26, 2009
Posts: 780
As much fun as they are to play, nobody locally seems to like group hug decks, and a Mono green deck has a fair number of glaring weaknesses. Trying to avoid buying many more cards, so any suggestions what I can build based on the Devour for power, Mirror mastery, and Counterpunch Commander Precon decks? Counterpunch is mostly intact. Devour and Mirror I dismantled completely to form my Momir Vig hug deck and my Kaervek deck. Mono green is all about Elf tribal and Large beasts.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 19, 2012 - 9:36AM #2
Perpetual
Date Joined: Oct 24, 2011
Posts: 447
Ghave and Karador both make decent commanders, with Karador even being  solid with Counterpunch straight out of the box.

You can make a pretty decent Riku deck cheap, even if you have to buy some of the cards. His ability to copy ramp spells like Sylvan Ranger and Cultivate can get you way ahead of the mana curve while thinning your deck in the process. You just have to decide what to do with all that mana.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 19, 2012 - 9:36AM #3
niheloim
Date Joined: Feb 3, 2008
Posts: 6,239
Animar is fairly cheap.
When playing Commander, before you add a card to your deck, you have to ask yourself:
"Is this card better than Rings ?"
If you play commander and don't have your deck[s] in the Decklist Compendium, maybe you should. Or if you're new or looking into the format, the compendium has some good advice for beginners as well as decklists.

3DH4LIF3

We should all have one of these playable from our sideboards
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 19, 2012 - 12:32PM #4
Rpetiger
Date Joined: Nov 26, 2009
Posts: 780
I could probably make a Riku deck if I take apart my Simic deck(easy enough) but leaves me a bit weak for R.  Animar would be fairly easy if I dismantle my Ezuri deck, though leaves me sorely lacking in R/U
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 19, 2012 - 1:04PM #5
Disturbed185
Date Joined: Jun 15, 2006
Posts: 349
Personally I think the best generals that came with those decks are

Edric, Spymaster of Trest
Ghave, Guru of Spores

Again that was personally. I feel like the other generals have great strategies but are a bit easier to disrupt. In my group, I've single-handedly made Edric a somewhat hated deck. And I've played 3 distinct versions of it before arriving at the deck I have now. There's still alot of time it fails.

I'm a huge fan of the "junk" color wedge. I've felt for a very long time that it's the best 3 color combination for EDH. Yes, blue is amazing for card draw and counters...but those other 3 colors have those as well, minus the counters.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 19, 2012 - 1:11PM #6
Rpetiger
Date Joined: Nov 26, 2009
Posts: 780
My current version of my edric deck is getting me nowhere. I turned Edric into an insane card draw/hug deck, and while I really enjoy playing it, The local format is more Tournament then it is casual, meaning that deck never wins, and I get nothing for my efforts (or worse, penalized). The other option is completely rebuilding that deck, but that would mean buying at least 30 new cards.

Upgrading an Edric deck into a RUG deck would be the easiest move, compared to a BWG where I have no experience playing White and none of my current decks lean to that wedge besides the Precon.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 19, 2012 - 2:23PM #7
Disturbed185
Date Joined: Jun 15, 2006
Posts: 349
I don't know why you'd say you don't know how to play white. White has many different strategies and alot of them overlap with other color strategies. Find one you're comfortable with and try it. I've been working on putting together a Ghave list, perhaps I'll post that later today. I will also update my Edric thread with my current decklist so you can check it out. Most of it is commons. Not counting the Lands the deck probably cost 30-50 bucks. And alot of the stuff is super easy to trade for, especially if the folks in your area have been playing for 10+ years.

My Edric thread is called: Yes, I'm looking for something in an after dinner burrito.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 19, 2012 - 2:46PM #8
Perpetual
Date Joined: Oct 24, 2011
Posts: 447
Riku

Ramp
1 x Cultivate
1 x Kodama's Reach
1 x Sylvan Ranger
1 x Farhaven Elf
1 x Coiling Oracle
1 x Civic Wayfinder
1 x Yavimaya Elder
1 x Simic Signet
1 x Izzet Signet
1 x Pristine Talisman as much for life gain as for mana. Make sure it gets used every turn.

Cheap (mana) spells for Riku to double
1 x Repulse
1 x Foresee
1 x Thought Scour
1 x Slice in Twain
1 x Tezzeret's Gambit
1 x Hull Breach
1 x Repeal
1 x Confound
1 x Steady Progress
I would add:
1 x Gaea's Blessing
1 x Memory's Journey
1 x Psychic Spiral this one doesn't get doubled.
1 x Telling Time but they are all uncommons. This is where the slippery slope away from 'budget' begins.

Parallel Lives is $3-4, and can add a second token creature when Riku doubles something. For similar cash and two more mana per use, Rings of Brighhearth can double Riku's ability, thus giving you triple creatures or spells.
Traumatize is relatively cheap dollar-wise and could seriously put a hole in an opponent's deck. Or two opponents.
If you don't have the cash for Red Sun's Zenith , a Disintegrate or even Fireball coupled with Riku's doubling can do serious damage.
Rite of Replication is only $1-2 and when kicked and doubled with Riku it almost doesn't matter what you are copying. It's going to suck for your opponents.

That's 25-30 cards (have to assume some protection for Riku like Mask of Avacyn or Shielding Plax ) that give you your ramp,some card advantage, a possible Mill win con, and some targeted destruction while barely touching the rare or uncommon sections of your card box. Add some creatures and another win con via spells and you are good to go. 

All that said....Karador out of the box still isn't bad.
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