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HairlessThoctar
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November 18, 2012 7:54 AM PST
Way too early to say how good this guy is, but generally speaking R&D never sets out to makebad Planeswalkers.
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CrazyToast
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November 18, 2012 7:57 AM PST
neither does Nissa Revane [/quote]Correct but at least Nissa is cleary the focus of the art (no background objects). Domri has a lot of stuff going on behind him which makes him look more like a legendary creature i
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StatueOfLuberty
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November 18, 2012 8:14 AM PST
notice he only costs 3 mana...so it's not like he's going to be terribly good. Good planeswalkers usually start at 4 mana ( Ajani Goldman , Ajani Vengeant , Chandra, the Firebra
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Glare_of_the_Loxodon
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November 18, 2012 8:16 AM PST
If Domri's supposed to be portrayed as a really young man, I can see the justification for his lack of presence in the art.
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DarkAvatar1018
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November 18, 2012 8:29 AM PST
We've had planeswalkers in the game for a really long time now, yet people still are constantly undervaluing them. It actually frustrates me far more than it should.Here's a protip (from a non-pro): Don't judge a planeswalker based on one of its abil
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Eonblueapocalypse1
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November 18, 2012 11:34 AM PST
If you are talking about limited, then I agree.For constructed though, this guy just isn't that good. His +1 isn't always going to draw you a card, even in a deck filled to the brim with creatures, at best his +1 is going to be 50% to draw a card, 50
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Sir_Kraemer
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November 18, 2012 11:38 AM PST
If this is legit, I want four.
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Doaj
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November 18, 2012 11:56 AM PST
I've gotta say, I really like him. I didn't play standard when Sarkhan came out, so I've never used a R/G walker. I like his +1 ability, even if it reveals half of your draws. At 3cmc, he's got a lot of potential. We'll see if he can back that up
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JohnnyComeLately
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November 18, 2012 1:06 PM PST
I keep reading his name as Doomri Blade
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TEA_DEMON
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November 18, 2012 1:59 PM PST
love this guy, hopefully he sees some play because he's so sweet.
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WaffleSD
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November 18, 2012 3:23 PM PST
The reason this guy's +1 doesn't consistantly draw you are card is because Wizard's does NOT make 3 mana planeswalkers that have + abilities that net card advantage. This guy seems fairly comparable to Liliana of the Veil. Abilities and costs and all
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MrIndigo
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November 18, 2012 4:06 PM PST
This guy is of comparable quality to Garruk 2, maybe a touch weaker.
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Wynzerman
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November 18, 2012 5:45 PM PST
Was this absolutely confirmed as legit?
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animatics
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November 18, 2012 6:06 PM PST
I don't think so... but on the other hand I'm not so pessimist about his +1.If you draw a creature you're probably going to protect him with it, so indirectly he protects himself, while giving CA. If not... bad luck... He would love Oracle of Mul
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niheloim
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November 18, 2012 9:01 PM PST
I like. Will be great in my animar edh.
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ChaosLight
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November 18, 2012 9:23 PM PST
He's clearly a young human or elf, and he's standing in front of large tusks, probably from the beast he beat down, and I dunno what he's holding but it's probably another trophey from hunting or making thing hunt each other. The whole point of the a
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nopemx6
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November 18, 2012 11:42 PM PST
The more i read this guy, the less playable he seems. You aren't dropping him turn 3, so you're playing him mid/late game or in a ramp into fatties deck, but by then there are better plays. Using the Mwonvuli Beast Tracker
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Highwayman
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November 19, 2012 3:16 AM PST
On the face of it, a more expensive prey upon !However, flexibility is valuable and there will be decks in which this provides some long and short game. Certainly this is better than Tibalt, the Useless
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dslatimore
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November 19, 2012 5:36 AM PST
That's not how prices work. :P
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-TheFlameReaper-
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November 19, 2012 7:04 AM PST
I think it is a fake as most planeswalker cards have their art pop out of the frame and wizards will not make such a poor planeswalker. But at least I would choose this card over Tibalt. DEFINATELY. Enough said.
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Rokukel
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November 19, 2012 7:20 AM PST
He is pretty good, not the best but not useless either.His +1 while not ensuring a draw does let you know what card you will draw next, which helps you plan ahead. His -2 is useful and his ultimate is just gravy.
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StatueOfLuberty
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November 19, 2012 7:35 AM PST
i agree with this. Just because you have the toughest creatures it doesn't mean you have the game in the palm of your hand. There a little 1/1's that have some pretty good activated abilities...or guildmages. Best way to get rid of em with green if t
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-TheFlameReaper-
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November 19, 2012 7:43 AM PST
But u will make him more vulnerable to attacks and removal spells.
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AvDemeisen
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November 19, 2012 7:47 AM PST
I hope the Gruul players enjoy him. Must say I'm a bit disappointed he isn't Dimir or Orzhov coloured though, but that's just because I'm a selfish black player, and we already know Ral Zarek is on his way in DM.He fits in several plays with the deck
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HairlessThoctar
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November 19, 2012 7:48 AM PST
I simply MUST make a deck abusing his -2's interaction with deathtouch .
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-TheFlameReaper-
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November 19, 2012 7:50 AM PST
Well it's most probably a fake.And it's hard for me to say it's a gd card even if it's real as I'm a passionate Gruul player so I kinda want gd cards for my guild.Maybe 1 day Izzet will be overshined by Gruul! :)
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-TheFlameReaper-
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November 19, 2012 7:56 AM PST
And this is definitely not a good card. Enough said.
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Suudsu2200
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November 19, 2012 7:56 AM PST
Not really playable in standard.
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Darkwolfer2002
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November 19, 2012 8:00 AM PST
This guy is perfect for consistant aggro. You get him out on 2nd turn (with a 1st turn ramp) and just keep plus 1 as keep popping out creatures. Yes you might miss but this helps aggro so much. And if for some reason this guy makes it to him ultimate
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-TheFlameReaper-
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November 19, 2012 8:17 AM PST
But u got to keep trying to prevent your opponent from killing him and it's not a garuntee you will get it at turn 3.
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StatueOfLuberty
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November 19, 2012 8:38 AM PST
if your running a gruul deck you'll have plenty of creatures to block, and what kind of stuff will your opponent have during the beginning phase of the game? if your playing aggro you'll have hthe upper hand. The only worry you should focus on is a
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-TheFlameReaper-
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November 19, 2012 8:51 AM PST
Well I play RG aggro and u will mostly have some small drops in the early 1-3 turns. So u kinda want to attack in aggro most of the time so not many chances to block.
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StatueOfLuberty
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November 19, 2012 10:53 AM PST
dat summoning sickness
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bay_falconer
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November 19, 2012 11:27 AM PST
Splash white for Spirit Mantle for added hilarity.
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Weisse
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November 19, 2012 3:54 PM PST
I like this one, and I definitely think he has a playable power level in Standard. I am inclined to rate him a notch or two lower than the comparable Liliana of the Veil , because Liliana is just super consistent an
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javert
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November 19, 2012 6:26 PM PST
He needs some very specific cards to be any good, and I feel that if something of the likes of Mirri's Guile or Sylvan Library gets printed, people will probably be playing those
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Eonblueapocalypse1
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November 19, 2012 6:56 PM PST
You're doing it all wrong. If you want card draw in green, you play Garruk, Primal Hunter .
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Matt_Holck
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November 19, 2012 7:15 PM PST
Skyshroud Poacher Wirewood Savage Game-Trail Changeling
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Singe
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November 19, 2012 9:42 PM PST
Stuffy Doll for the second ability. Take the biggest creature and have it beat down the doll to deal damage to the target player.
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Angry_Toy_Poodle
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November 20, 2012 3:38 PM PST
gatekeeper vine acidic slime elvish visionary borderland ranger huntmaster of the fells
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M.E.K.T.A.R.
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November 20, 2012 7:22 PM PST
Akroma's Memorial is better. Deal with it.
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Keino
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November 20, 2012 7:42 PM PST
This 'walker is totally sweet. All of the flaws that people are pointing out are just personal nitpicking about what it should do. In reality, there is nothing wrong with this guy, which makes him really strong.Seriously, if you want to save your t3
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Jaz.
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November 20, 2012 7:55 PM PST
I forsee the Tibalt syndrome. Looks really nice on paper and will open at about $20 a pop. I foresee him settling around $5.He's OK, but is a slow play in an aggro/zoo deck, where he really wants to be. Who knows -
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MrIndigo
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November 20, 2012 8:20 PM PST
Like 99% of Planeswalkers, this is not an aggro card. You play him in midrange, where he's basically a suspend overrun.
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TranscientMaster
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November 20, 2012 11:17 PM PST
Fake. All Planeswalkers* go over the frame. This one doesn't, so it can't possibly be real.*Go away, Nissa Revane . Everyone knows you aren't a real Planeswalker. Stop ruining my argument.
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niheloim
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November 20, 2012 11:40 PM PST
The one printing of liliana vess also doesn't cross the frame.
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sage62
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November 21, 2012 12:57 AM PST
Actually it does, her head pokes out a bit.
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will_dice
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November 21, 2012 2:56 AM PST
Actually it does, her head pokes out a bit.[/quote]The Duel Decks version doesn't:
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StatueOfLuberty
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November 21, 2012 6:59 AM PST
you guys need to stop hatin' on the red/green aggro fanatic's hero
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malpheas
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November 21, 2012 7:05 AM PST
I like this guy. The fight ability, I would have preferred to see, could have been at -1 instead of -2. That's it, really, just a nit pick. I like him, though.
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XIII13Thirteen
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November 21, 2012 7:30 AM PST
I think we'll see on this guy. If nothing else, he's cute for when they decide to Azorious Charm your attacking dude. I think he's as stated, mid-rangey.
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Sir_Kraemer
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November 21, 2012 10:50 AM PST
Perhaps he's from Muraganda? I do hope so, I want Muraganda to be a block. So many dinosaurs, so little time.
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Darkwolfer2002
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November 21, 2012 1:10 PM PST
Limited this guy will win the game unless you get unlucky and get no creatures to block but you will have probably built your deck around this guy anyways.Constructed, he will see play in midrange aggro. Weather it ends up top tear or not is another
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CommanderGreven
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November 21, 2012 4:54 PM PST
This little and I do mean little guy seems pretty solid to me. Probably won't get to his ultimate much but his first ability is alright and his 2nd can be really nice for certain decks.
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dontmess17
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November 22, 2012 7:47 AM PST
no title after domri rade? the name alone seems kind of awkward.and i thought they were making a walker of every combination of two colors. they still have UG, GW, and UR left.sarkhan vol was already RG. i'm skeptical, even though i love this guy
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will_dice
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November 22, 2012 9:39 AM PST
Jace Beleren , Liliana Vess , Sarkhan Vol , Nissa Revane , Sorin Markov ... mos
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Glare_of_the_Loxodon
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November 23, 2012 1:26 AM PST
This. :thumbsup:
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Mown
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November 23, 2012 5:51 AM PST
I don't really like all the abilities all that much, but I wonder how potent it is if you cast it turn 2.Somewhat disappointed with where planeswalker ultimates went after we got Emblems.
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bay_falconer
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November 23, 2012 9:31 AM PST
False. Overrun gives your guys trample and +3/+3 until EOT. This guy gives hexproof, trample, double strike, and haste.
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Eonblueapocalypse1
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November 23, 2012 10:40 AM PST
False. Overrun gives your guys trample and +3/+3 until EOT. This guy gives hexproof, trample, double strike, and haste.[/quote]Both of which usually end games right there on the spot if you have a few creatures on the table, which is pretty much the
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malpheas
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November 23, 2012 10:44 AM PST
False. Overrun gives your guys trample and +3/+3 until EOT. This guy gives hexproof, trample, double strike, and haste.[/quote]Overrun was a intentional misnomer. I like this one, not the strongest, but his +1 is useful.
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Manite
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November 24, 2012 11:01 AM PST
Looking at the reveal of GTC's edition of Stomping Ground , it appears Domri Rade is indeed legit. He is quoted in the flavor text:"Roots, ruins, and room to fight. All the comforts of home." - Domri RadeAnybody not
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HairlessThoctar
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November 24, 2012 11:28 AM PST
Good catch, Manite!
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Axelle
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November 24, 2012 1:23 PM PST
Those shocklands were from 3 months ago, and nobody caught that until now.Excellent.
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Doaj
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November 24, 2012 10:14 PM PST
Hah! I bet WotC laughed at that one. Very nice catch.
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KrakenHatchlingFTW
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November 25, 2012 5:31 PM PST
Nice catch man. It will be interesting to see whether he is from Ravnica or not. Seems like with the lack of nature it would be hard for someone to ahgrow up wild like that. Also raises the question of his/her gender and age.
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HairlessThoctar
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November 25, 2012 8:10 PM PST
It does sound kind of touristy, doesn't it?
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ChampionoftheParish
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November 26, 2012 1:30 PM PST
The fact that the flavor text makes him sound like he's from a different plane is interesting. I'm also hoping for Muraganda, but I don't see why it couldn't be Jund (although we already have a Jundian walker). What are the other possible home planes
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HairlessThoctar
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November 26, 2012 2:05 PM PST
Actually, Sarkhan is a tourist.We don't know where he's from.
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AzureShade
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November 27, 2012 6:27 AM PST
Actually, Sarkhan is a tourist.We don't know where he's from. [/quote]Though, if MaRo can be believed, it's somewhere Asian.
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bay_falconer
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November 27, 2012 1:32 PM PST
Actually, Sarkhan is a tourist.We don't know where he's from. [/quote]Though, if MaRo can be believed, it's somewhere Asian.[/quote]But not Kamigawa. Mongolia is more like the Great Plains, TBH.
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Eonblueapocalypse1
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November 27, 2012 3:07 PM PST
Actually, Sarkhan is a tourist.We don't know where he's from. [/quote]Though, if MaRo can be believed, it's somewhere Asian.[/quote]But not Kamigawa. Mongolia is more like the Great Plains, TBH.[/quote] Kharasha
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Doaj
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November 27, 2012 8:20 PM PST
I still hold to the belief that Mongsengnis their errata for where Three Kingdoms takes place. Sarkhan being from there would be an interesting reference to the days of 1999.
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bay_falconer
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November 28, 2012 9:17 AM PST
Could be. I assume not, though, since that the Yuan dynasty was around a millennium after the Three Kingdoms period.
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KnexWiz
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December 11, 2012 11:31 PM PST
well we are getting UR with Ral in DGM (that is the code, right?). theres been some speculation that Gideon will be in GTC so we wont get UG or GW for a little while...
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HairlessThoctar
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December 12, 2012 7:24 AM PST
It's been confirmed that he's in GTC.
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Earthdawn
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December 18, 2012 9:21 AM PST
Aggro would get use out of the second ability with some efficiency. Any token with Rancor on it becomes a Lightning Bolt effectively. As mentione before, Loxodon Smiter
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Manite
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December 25, 2012 4:50 PM PST
Would you like a little bloodrush with your keyword salad? Seriously, this guy seems perfectly tailored for Gruul if bloodrush works how I suspect it does.
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bay_falconer
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December 28, 2012 1:45 PM PST
It's an ability word, though. Not a keyword. (Keywords are things like first strike. Ability words are things like threshold that just tell you a particular template is there, for searching purposes and to give us a name for the ability.)
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StatueOfLuberty
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December 28, 2012 3:16 PM PST
It's an ability word, though. Not a keyword. (Keywords are things like first strike. Ability words are things like threshold that just tell you a particular template is there, for searching purposes and to give us a name for the ability.)[/quote]"abi
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Manite
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December 28, 2012 10:41 PM PST
The keyword salad in question is Domri's ultimate, which grants your creatures haste, hexproof, double strike, and trample. I wasn't saying bloodrush itself is a keyword, just mentioning it as a "side" or "topping" for the salad. It'd be like asking
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bay_falconer
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December 29, 2012 12:49 PM PST
It's an ability word, though. Not a keyword. (Keywords are things like first strike. Ability words are things like threshold that just tell you a particular template is there, for searching purposes and to give us a name for the ability.)[/quote]"abi
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Bemontok
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January 2, 2013 9:03 PM PST
Well, Domri was confirmed in DailyMTGPicture of non-foil version
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SeniorGomez
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January 2, 2013 9:11 PM PST
Still great, will play a Zoo deck with him as at least a 3 of, maybe 4... I just need a set of Resotartion Angels now... >_>
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speedy92286
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January 3, 2013 2:57 AM PST
As others have said, he seems tailored towards Gruul with their mechanic. Bloodrush seems extremely playable on paper and this guy just makes it easier to get those creatures. His second ability is also extremely helpful to Gruul because Gruuls is un
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CrazyToast
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January 3, 2013 4:05 AM PST
Oh look, Domri is real.... I just don't like this planeswalker even though I love the :G::R: color combination. His +1 is quite nice but I would rather play a creature like Deadbridge Goliath (with turn 1 mana d
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metroidcomposite
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January 3, 2013 5:36 AM PST
Oh well guess it's real; maybe I should analyze it.Depending on the deck the +1 is better than 3cmc Liliana's. (Like...sure, Liliana's is cool if you're a reanimator deck, but it's card neutral whereas this is usually card advantage). What's parti
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Symar
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January 3, 2013 8:08 AM PST
Now that we've seen Gideon, I prefer Domri over him. But overall not too impressed with this block's walkers.
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Nocculum
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January 3, 2013 8:29 AM PST
Just screaming to be broken with (like every other counter based card), everyone's favourite lantern carrier, Gilder Bairn .
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Eonblueapocalypse1
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January 3, 2013 10:24 AM PST
The only thing I disagree with here is your breakdown of his +1. Yes, his +1 could be better than 3cmc Liliana's in the right deck, but that deck would have to contain roughly 30+ creatures to make his +1 anywhere near reliable. Even with a ton of Bl
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metroidcomposite
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January 3, 2013 12:30 PM PST
Creature counts of the Top 8 decks at the most recent standard GP28 creatures24 creatures 26 creatures26 creatures23 creatures25 creatures18 creatures24 creaturesOk, what about Standard a year ago...22 creatures22 creatures7 creatures26 creatures18 c
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Eonblueapocalypse1
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January 3, 2013 12:37 PM PST
Fair enough.Freudian slip on Birds of Paradise ? Arbor Elf and Avacyn's Pilgrim -Fixed.I really don't think dumping all your removal in favor of
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bay_falconer
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January 3, 2013 3:44 PM PST
Proliferate, Doubling Season , and (since he only costs 3 mana) Sun Titan are other options, depending on your deck.
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phaseshifter
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January 8, 2013 5:12 PM PST
This card should not be considered removal.
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RorixCollector
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January 9, 2013 7:30 AM PST
He sucks but at least he's better than Gideon.
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Fenix.
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January 9, 2013 8:55 AM PST
You on Deathrite Shaman :You on Azorius Charm :You on Rakdos Cackler :No.[/quote]Seems like you actually have no idea what you're talking about.
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XIII13Thirteen
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January 9, 2013 10:21 AM PST
I think he's good, but I wouldn't spend $25 bucks on him or whatever he's going for. I mean I don't even think you want to run more than 2-3 because he isn't a creature himself. I think half your deck atleast has to be dudes to make this guy have any
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bay_falconer
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January 9, 2013 10:24 AM PST
Better than Leaf Arrow .
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RxPhantom
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January 18, 2013 7:39 AM PST
Since he was spoiled, I've been trying to figure out who he looked like. It really bothered me. He looks like Travis Barker, drummer for Blink-182.
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Doaj
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January 22, 2013 9:34 PM PST
I think this will see play in a Naya Midrange build that uses Mwonvuli Beast Tracker to tutor cards to the top of the library, to then prodeed to draw them. Having him on the field also really hoses Azorius Ch