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7 months ago  ::  Nov 17, 2012 - 3:05PM #1
stepintherift
Date Joined: Oct 22, 2012
Posts: 32
I tried a pretty straightforward build, but still, it seems... all over the place. Don't get me wrong, it works and I won a fair share of games running this, but I feel it isn't consistent enough. I need help making it a bit more reliable. Here is what I've got thus far.

4 x Rakdos Cackler
2 x Stromkirk Noble
2 x Stonewright
4 x Ash Zealot
4 x Lightning Mauler
4 x Hellrider

4 x Searing Spear
4 x Pillar of Flame
4 x Brimstone Volley

4 x Furor of the Bitten
2 x Mark of Mutiny

18 x Mountain
2 x Hellion Crucible


Stonewright - not amazing, but still can push through a lot of damage
Lightning Mauler - again, not amazing, but with what could I replace him with?
Furor of the Bitten - great card overall
Mark of Mutiny - the only counter I could think of to Thragtusk
Hellion Crucible - for all those pesky board cleaners


As always, any and all suggestions are welcome!
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 17, 2012 - 3:15PM #2
stepintherift
Date Joined: Oct 22, 2012
Posts: 32
Also, I haen't thought of a stable sideboard yet, but it would probably include things like Flames of the Firebrand , Traitorous Blood , Volcanic Strenght , Reverberate , maybe even Vexing Devil .

Needless to say, I would appreciate help with the sideboard too. 
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6 months ago  ::  Nov 18, 2012 - 1:48AM #3
Catotheyounger
Date Joined: Nov 18, 2012
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I wouldn't run furor of the bitten, because a lot of the time they'll kill your creature and deal with 2 (the enchantment and the creature) of your cards with 1 of theirs.  I'd run annihilating fire instead.
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6 months ago  ::  Nov 18, 2012 - 2:37AM #4
stepintherift
Date Joined: Oct 22, 2012
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I tried running more burn, including Annihilating Fire . The only redeeming factor to it is that it exiles creatures. I would run it in zombie matchups, but otherwise, I don't think so. 12 burns is quite enough.

Your argument on Furor of the Bitten is valid, though. The cool part about it is that it puts my creatures out of the range of pillar of flame (and even searing spear in some cases), which are by far the most common creature removals. Also, if you enchant Ash Zealot , you get a 4/4 with first strike, which beats most creatures aggro/midrange decks use. Still, getting 2-for-1'd is never good.
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6 months ago  ::  Nov 18, 2012 - 2:51AM #5
MtgElf21
Date Joined: Apr 16, 2012
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I am planning to build a similar deck to play until gatecrash comes out...but i am on a budget and i will spend about 15-20$ for  a play set of Ash Zealot this leaves me without any more $$$ to spend on cards like Hellrider so what 4drops are viable in this deck except Hellrider ??

Also about your deck i think that you can try Gore-House Chainwalker or Rakdos Shred-Freak instead of Lightning Mauler  

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6 months ago  ::  Nov 18, 2012 - 3:51AM #6
stepintherift
Date Joined: Oct 22, 2012
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Hellrider is soooo good, I doubt you could find a substitute for him. Basically, the trun you play him is the turn you win in 80% of cases. But still, a budget is a budget. You could always try running things like Hound of Griselbrand , Bloodfray Giant or Archwing Dragon . They are pretty much your only cheaper alternatives. 
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6 months ago  ::  Nov 18, 2012 - 4:36AM #7
MtgElf21
Date Joined: Apr 16, 2012
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www.mtgdeckbuilder.net/Decks/ViewDeck/35...


Here is the deck im thinking to use check it you might get some ideas :D


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6 months ago  ::  Nov 18, 2012 - 4:47AM #8
Wynzerman
Date Joined: Oct 23, 2010
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Stonewright is bad with only 20 lands, and I'm fairly certain that Hellrider is difficult to cast on time. I think this deck falls into the RDW trap of "draw nuts or die" deck design.

Stromkirk Noble is bad against most of the established decks in the format, while snowballing is nice, turn 4 Thragtusk is bigger and meaner than a fed Noble. and the lifegain undoes 2-3 turns of work the noble does.


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6 months ago  ::  Nov 18, 2012 - 8:41AM #9
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Date Joined: Sep 9, 2012
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Nov 18, 2012 -- 4:47AM, Wynzerman wrote:

Stromkirk Noble is bad against most of the established decks in the format, while snowballing is nice, turn 4 Thragtusk is bigger and meaner than a fed Noble. and the lifegain undoes 2-3 turns of work the noble does.




Just what one-drop do you think is good against Thragtusk ?

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6 months ago  ::  Nov 18, 2012 - 9:01AM #10
stepintherift
Date Joined: Oct 22, 2012
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Nov 18, 2012 -- 4:47AM, Wynzerman wrote:

Stonewright is bad with only 20 lands, and I'm fairly certain that Hellrider is difficult to cast on time. I think this deck falls into the RDW trap of "draw nuts or die" deck design.

Stromkirk Noble is bad against most of the established decks in the format, while snowballing is nice, turn 4 Thragtusk is bigger and meaner than a fed Noble. and the lifegain undoes 2-3 turns of work the noble does.




Thanks! Any suggestions?

Also, as the person above me said, you are comparing a one-drop to Thragtusk, which isn't the fairest comparision. 

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