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7 months ago  ::  Nov 18, 2012 - 6:06PM #21
BigK42
Date Joined: Apr 21, 2010
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Nov 18, 2012 -- 6:01PM, tehbeast wrote:

I like The Aristocrats over Hell's Angels.




Yeah, he's going all red though.  It's getting to the point where archwing dragon vs. falkenrath aristocrat vs. olivia voldaren is more a meta call.  Dragon is better vs. control and olivia is useful as psuedo removal vs. opposing olivias in jund.  Aristocrat is probably the more powerful card overall, especially if you're running humans to pitch to it, or can use it in conjunction with traitorous blood or similar effects.

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 18, 2012 - 6:21PM #22
felisdomesticus
Date Joined: Feb 8, 2012
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Nov 18, 2012 -- 5:48PM, BigK42 wrote:

To be fair, with all the sorcery speed removal floating around, furor is often no worse than a pillar to the face, and can have significant upside against opposing aggro decks that are using red burn spells as situational removal.  That said, it's more of a sideboard than a main deck card. 



1:  pillar is to the face is pretty mediocre.
2:  thragtusk can't block pillar of flame. 

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 18, 2012 - 6:34PM #23
BigK42
Date Joined: Apr 21, 2010
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Nov 18, 2012 -- 6:21PM, felisdomesticus wrote:

Nov 18, 2012 -- 5:48PM, BigK42 wrote:

To be fair, with all the sorcery speed removal floating around, furor is often no worse than a pillar to the face, and can have significant upside against opposing aggro decks that are using red burn spells as situational removal.  That said, it's more of a sideboard than a main deck card. 



1:  pillar is to the face is pretty mediocre.
2:  thragtusk can't block pillar of flame. 




That's why I say it's a sideboard card.  Playing it vs. thragtusk decks is suboptimal.

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 18, 2012 - 6:40PM #24
Minervas_touch
Date Joined: Nov 27, 2010
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Hate to say it ^ but your two points contradicted themselves.

Point 1, pillar to the face is pretty mediocre

point 2. Pillar is unblockable and gets through thragtusk

So your overall argument is hey even though pillar is mediocre, it gets past thragtustk...?

I am just trying to follow your logic there, I don't think the enchantment is great by any means but... I don't think its unplayable.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 18, 2012 - 6:56PM #25
felisdomesticus
Date Joined: Feb 8, 2012
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My point is that pillar is mediocre, even when it bypasses tusk, so a "pillar" that can't bypass tusk is complete ****.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 18, 2012 - 8:58PM #26
tehbeast
Date Joined: Jun 14, 2006
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But it beats the **** out of Geistflame, so Pillar away!
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 18, 2012 - 9:02PM #27
stepintherift
Date Joined: Oct 22, 2012
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If furor is actually THAT bad, mind giving any alternatives? Should I add some more 1/2/3 cmc creatures? More burn? Splash green for Thragtusk? 

Pointing out problems in my deck without mentioning solutions to said problems doesn't really help all that much.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 18, 2012 - 9:06PM #28
tehbeast
Date Joined: Jun 14, 2006
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I personally like a burn package of 4 Pillar of Flame , 4 Searing Spear and 4 Brimstone Volley , with 2 Bonfire of the Damned from the 'board.

Furor isn't so bad, I guess, just seems janky as all hell. Like Crippling Blight . Just thinking about it makes me sad, but apparently it's playable against Thragtusk .

I'd still splash black for Falkenrath Aristocrat because indestructible flying Lightning Elemental is good, I hear. Also lets you have a pair of Olivia Voldaren out the 'board vs. aggro and Rites.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 18, 2012 - 9:24PM #29
p0p3l1n3ss
Date Joined: Nov 10, 2010
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Once you start adding colors though, it's no longer RDW.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 18, 2012 - 9:43PM #30
tehbeast
Date Joined: Jun 14, 2006
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No, it's still RDW, except that it wins more because flying + haste + indestructable.

Is Zombies no longer Zombies when it splashes a colour?
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