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7 months ago ::
Nov 15, 2012 - 10:43PM
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Date Joined:
Jun 23, 2012
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Creatures 17 2 Deathrite Shaman  3 Desecration Demon  4 Vampire Nighthawk  2 Skirsdag High Priest  4 Blood Artist  2 Bloodline Keeper  / Lord of Lineage  Spells 19 4 Tragic Slip  4 Searing Spear  4 sign in blood  4 Mizzium Mortars  3 ultimate price  Artifacts 4 4 Rakdos Keyrune  Lands 20 4 blood crypt  2 rakdos guildgate  4 dragonskull summit  4 woodland cemetery  4 swamp  2 mountain  Sideboard 15 3 Victim of Night  2 Slaughter Games  2 Pithing Needle  2 Underworld Connections  4 Pillar of Flame  2 Deathrite Shaman This is a midrange deck ive been working on lately, I havn't play tested it in an FNM environment as of yet, but hope to do so tomorrow night; any advice on how to improve it would be greatly appreciated, please tell me what you guys think. Note: please leave constructive criticism, having someone post "I don't like it" really doesn't help to improve the deck at all; if you do not like an aspect of the deck list please leave a reason why you feel that way.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 16, 2012 - 12:53AM
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I like this build. I've been wanting to see Skirsdag High Priest in a deck for a while now. I also really like the syngergy with Bloodline Keeper . However, I feel that it lacks an early game. I was thinking maybe +4 Rakdos Cackler  and +2 Vexing Devil  . I would take out the Keyrunes and probably the Shamans (I agree, they're badass though). Also +1 Griselbrand  !!!!!!!
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7 months ago ::
Nov 16, 2012 - 5:00AM
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Date Joined:
Apr 21, 2010
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I don't really like tragic slip  . I feel like it's too limited in application, and that you'd be better off without something that required morbid. Dreadbore  isn't a bad alternative, and it eases up your need for pithing needle in the sideboard. For a midrange deck, you're betting an awful lot on bloodline keeper  and desecration demon  . I'd like to see something at the 5 slot - thundermaw hellkite  is very good. If you really want black creatures, bloodgift demon  is about your only option.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 16, 2012 - 7:21AM
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yes, tragic slip is a bad card these days. pillar seems far better
you need more lands, you can't get away with only 20.
that high preist seems bad in a deck that isn't all in on creatures like zombies.
that goes for blood artist too, artist is really, really terrible in this deck.
you need creatures that actually do somehting when you draw them.
i know you have a lot of 4 drops already, but you should be playing olivia voldaren, its better than both the ones you have listed.
you have a lot of removal, i'd shave some nubmer there for cards. also, really needs rakdos's return.
i like duress more these days.
final point, how aren't you playing dreadbore???
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7 months ago ::
Nov 16, 2012 - 7:29AM
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Date Joined:
Jul 16, 2012
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Is budget a concern? Because Olivia Voldaren  , Rakdos, Lord of Riots  , Rakdos's Return  and Dreadbore all want to be in this deck really badly.
I want to be Cultured. 
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7 months ago ::
Nov 16, 2012 - 10:26PM
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Date Joined:
Jun 23, 2012
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I would like to thank everyone for their responses. I like tragic slip , but at the same time i kind of agree with the majority here it probably needs replacing, I would replace it with dreadbore  but im kind of strapped for cash, I'm not sure there is really a good card to replace it with besides dreadbore ; victim of night  and ultimate price (the things I would replace it with) miss a lot of creatures in the current meta game. olivia voldaren  is someone I want to throw in the deck but I don't have any of them and budget sucks, I will try and get my hands on one to add to the deck. bloodgift demon in the 5mana slot is something ive toyed with in the past but threw it out for one reason or the other, either way im going to put it back in; thundermaw hellkite again no money to buy it, plus i like bloodgift demon more in the 5mana spot because ill always have enough black mana to support it and bloodgift demon provides a continual bonus. As for griselbrand  , I like him, but as the deck stands right now hes not got the mana support he will need, so in that regard im gunna bump up the lands to 23, and im also considering throwing in a few heartless summoning  s; I would go the rakdos, lord of riots  way, but having to hurt the enemy to summon him really kills the card, I wish they had designed him differently. I'm also gunna take out blood artist  and skirsdag high priest  they're good in the right deck but probably not for a deck like this, I am however keeping the deathrite shaman  s that card is amazing. anyways lots to go over ill post an update of the deck list in a little bit, keep the suggestions coming.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 16, 2012 - 11:40PM
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Date Joined:
Jun 23, 2012
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ok heres the new list tell me what you guys think Creatures 19 3 Desecration Demon 2 Vampire Nighthawk 2 Bloodline Keeper / Lord of Lineage 3 Bloodgift Demon  2 Olivia Voldaren 2 Carnival Hellsteed  1 Griselbrand 2 Disciple of Bolas  Spells 15 2 duress  2 faithless looting  2 sign in blood 2 Mizzium Mortars 4 dreadbore 2 mutilate  2 rolling temblor  Enchantments 4 4 Heartless summoning  Lands 22 4 blood crypt 4 rakdos guildgate 4 dragonskull summit 10 swamp Ok heres the update, added a lot, im having trouble choosing between geralf's messenger  and vampire nighthawk  , I like the synergy that the messenger has with disciple of bolas  , but he doesn't really get a bonus from heartless summoning . while the nighthawk doesn't get that much help from the summoning he does maintain his purpose in the deck which is to gain life through his lifelinking ability early in the game and later in the game holds off enemies with his deathtouch; honestly im leaning towards vampire nighthawk . either way tell me what you guys think. Edit: sticking with the nighthawks
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7 months ago ::
Nov 17, 2012 - 12:20AM
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Date Joined:
Sep 10, 2006
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There is nothing midrange about Griselbrand unless you are cheating him into play.
You want to stock up on the cards you really want. 4 nighthawk, 4 Bloodgift Demon, 3 Olivia, then 2-4 bloodline keeper or 4 desecration demon. You don't need to play so many creatures and so many creatures you have to wait to cast.
Good in EDH
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7 months ago ::
Nov 17, 2012 - 12:34AM
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Yeah I agree with Shadowchu, Griselbrand would be fine as a 1 or 2 of finisher, but you need to steam line the deck more. Also, it really lacks an early game. I still think +2 Vexing Devil and +4 Rakdos Cackler would be good.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 17, 2012 - 2:26AM
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Yeah I agree with Shadowchu, Griselbrand would be fine as a 1 or 2 of finisher, but you need to steam line the deck more. Also, it really lacks an early game. I still think +2 Vexing Devil and +4 Rakdos Cackler would be good.
Vexing Devil is not good in a deck that wants to make it to the midgame.
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