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7 months ago  ::  Nov 15, 2012 - 1:18PM #1
Incarnation
Date Joined: Nov 15, 2012
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My friends got me completely addicted to MtG, and after a month of inner strife I finally gave in and got started on building my own deck. I bought the Izzet versus Golgari dualdeck together with a friend, and then edited the Golgari a bit with the help of my friends.

This is what I got right now: [UPDATED]


1 Grisly Salvage
2 Golgari Grave-Troll
1 Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
1 Dakmor Salvage
1 Life from the Loam
2 Eternal Witness
1 Stinkweed Imp
1 Dreg Mangler
4 Golgari Rot Farm
2 Svogthos, the Restless Tomb
7 Forest
5 Swamp
1 Tranquil Thicket
1 Barren Moor
2 Terror
1 Llanowar Elves
3 Golgari Signet
2 Putrefy
2 Korozda Guildmage
3 Shambling Shell
2 Elves of Deep Shadow
2 Recollect
3 Moldervine Cloak
1 Vigor Mortis
1 Putrid Leech
1 Grave-Shell Scarab
3 Deathgreeter
1 Ghoul's Feast
1 Boneyard Wurm
1 Mortivore
1 Golgari Brownscale





Obviously it's still very messy with way too many singles, but perhaps you guys have some advice how to make it better without going over my budget (20 bucks per month as I'm only a poor student)


Some cards I was thinking of to get:

4 Slitherhead
3 Grisly Salvage
1 Golgari Grave-Troll
1 Shambling Shell


Do you guys agree on these, or not? If yes, what cards should I drop for them? And what other cards would you recommend that aren't too expensive?

Thanks in advance

EDIT: Posssible decklist I need comments on:

2 Barren Moor
2 Dakmor Salvage
4 Forest
4 Golgari Rot Farm
1 Svogthos, the Restless Tomb
6 Swamp
2 Tranquil Thicket
2 Doomgape
2 Dreg Mangler
3 Eternal Witness
3 Golgari Grave-Troll
2 Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
2 Stinkweed Imp
2 Life // Death
2 Life from the Loam
4 Putrefy
1 Avatar of Woe
2 Putrid Imp
3 Animate Dead
1 Cabal Therapy
2 Dread Return
1 Entomb
1 Reanimate
4 Slitherhead
2 Bridge from Below 
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 15, 2012 - 1:47PM #2
CandyWife20
Date Joined: Sep 1, 2012
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I will alway suggest putting multiples of cards in (if you can afford to). Yes to the Slitherhead , look into a Corpsejack Menace . Grisly Salvage can help, if you are willing to let some cards go. Also Jarad's Orders to search for Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord and throw a Slitherhead. I would also suggest Golgari Guildgate because it should help with mana.  These few cards are pretty inexpensive, so you should not have a problem. If money was not an issue I would suggest Abrupt Decay , Deathrite Shaman , and Lotleth Troll , so maybe keep an eye out for them, they work really well in my husband's deck hope this helps
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 15, 2012 - 4:59PM #3
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even though life from the loam and greater mossdog have dredge I don't think they fit the decklist very well.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 15, 2012 - 6:02PM #4
Lightning-Balls
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Ok, so do you want to build a Dredge deck, or a gravepower deck with dredge in it? If dredge, then I could ramble on and on about how to build it for pages!! But a gravepower deck, I could give some advice also.


You need to run 4x Dreg Mangler . It is awesome early game with a late game bonus!! Dakmor Salvage is also good for dredging.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 15, 2012 - 7:17PM #5
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Dredge and scavenge are two mechanics that work well together- you can dredge to get cards back, and doing so puts scavenge cards into your graveyard. Absolutely go with four Slitherheads. They're a free +1/+1 from your graveyard onto any creature. That said, you need to focus on cutting the less efficient cards and going with multiples of the better cards. And, as was mentioned above, a corpsejack menace will be very effective, especially if you dip into Return to Ravnica and use scavenge cards.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 16, 2012 - 2:36AM #6
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Nov 15, 2012 -- 1:47PM, CandyWife20 wrote:

I will alway suggest putting multiples of cards in (if you can afford to). Yes to the Slitherhead , look into a Corpsejack Menace . Grisly Salvage can help, if you are willing to let some cards go. Also Jarad's Orders to search for Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord and throw a Slitherhead. I would also suggest Golgari Guildgate because it should help with mana.  These few cards are pretty inexpensive, so you should not have a problem. If money was not an issue I would suggest Abrupt Decay , Deathrite Shaman , and Lotleth Troll , so maybe keep an eye out for them, they work really well in my husband's deck hope this helps



Thanks for the reply! I'll get some Slitherheads since they're good and cheap one-drops, which I lack now, and probably some Grisly Salvages as they fuel my graveyard. I'm not sure about Corpsejack Menace, seeing as I can't play him from graveyard and I don't run that many Scavenge creatures: I'll see how those work and then get a corpsejack when I start running more scavengers. I'm not sure if I should run Golgari Rotfarm or Guildgate, seeing as both have their ups and downs but running both would be a bit overkill.

I'd love to run some Deathrite Shamans and Lotleth Trolls, but I'm afraid they're too expensive for me Maybe I'll get one or two Lotleth Trolls later on.

Nov 15, 2012 -- 4:59PM, morticianjohn wrote:

even though life from the loam and greater mossdog have dredge I don't think they fit the decklist very well.



I'm trying to get some replacement for mossdog, but I think I'll keep life from the loam. I almost always have some lands in my graveyard so it's pretty much a land search whenever I want one.

Nov 15, 2012 -- 6:02PM, Lightning-Balls wrote:

Ok, so do you want to build a Dredge deck, or a gravepower deck with dredge in it? If dredge, then I could ramble on and on about how to build it for pages!! But a gravepower deck, I could give some advice also.

You need to run 4x Dreg Mangler . It is awesome early game with a late game bonus!! Dakmor Salvage is also good for dredging.



I really like the idea of Dredge, and want to focus mostly on stuff that I can keep playing from my graveyard (essentially making Dredge a search engine). If you have advice on Dredge decks, I'd be very grateful if you'd post it here (or redirect me to a guide). I'm gonna try to get some Dreg Manglers and Dakmor Salvages.

Nov 15, 2012 -- 7:17PM, GeekyDad wrote:

Dredge and scavenge are two mechanics that work well together- you can dredge to get cards back, and doing so puts scavenge cards into your graveyard. Absolutely go with four Slitherheads. They're a free +1/+1 from your graveyard onto any creature. That said, you need to focus on cutting the less efficient cards and going with multiples of the better cards. And, as was mentioned above, a corpsejack menace will be very effective, especially if you dip into Return to Ravnica and use scavenge cards.



As I said to Candywife20 I'll definitely get some Slitherheads since they are good 1-drops, but I'm not sure about Corpsejack Menace seeing as I can't play him from graveyard, which is where I'll get most my cards from.

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 16, 2012 - 8:42PM #7
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Nov 16, 2012 -- 2:36AM, Incarnation wrote:


I'm trying to get some replacement for mossdog, but I think I'll keep life from the loam. I almost always have some lands in my graveyard so it's pretty much a land search whenever I want one.




Almost anything works better than greater mossdog but if you're going to replace it with a 4CMC creature then deadbridge goliath is a good option. However, I would consider more elves of deep shadow , or call of the herd

As far as life from the loam I don't mind it as much if you have other ways to get lands in the graveyard besides dredge which your deck doesn't start dredging until turn 4 or later (most of the time) from the looks of it. Here are some options for lands which can make life from the loam better terramorphic expanse , verdant catacombs and evolving wilds

In addition you could improve your ability to start dredging sooner in the game by playing spells like mulch or grisly salvage which will also make life from the loam more valuable sooner in the game.

A warning about golgari thug - if you cast him on turn 2 and have no other creatures in the graveyard and your opponent destroys it then you have to target it which puts it back on top of the library. It's a terrible situation to be in as most of the time you don't want to draw a golgari thug turn 3 especially if you started out with 2 lands on the play and are looking for that third land but there are other situations as well. I highly recommend removing golgari thug (or at least never playing it before you have other options in the graveyard).

dread return is a staple in many dredge decklists.

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6 months ago  ::  Nov 17, 2012 - 4:43AM #8
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Thanks for the reply, I must say I'm impressed: You managed to spot my deck's key issues simply by looking at it, while it took me ten games with it to do so!

I traded some cards with my friends and have changed my deck a bit (see the original post). I got another Eternal witness , some Recollect , more Dredgers and a Grisly Salvage , of which I'll definitely get some more. I'm also trying out Deathgreeter as one-drops, but I'm not sure about those yet. I removed my Greater Mossdog , Golgari Thug and Reassembling Skeleton as they didn't do much good.

My friend also pointed me to this Premium Graveborn deck, which he saw lying in a comic book store. It has a lot of cards that would work great with this deck, I think. I was also thinking of simply getting another Izzet versus Golgari dualdeck (split up with a friend again), as that would mean a whole lot of great cards for only ten bucks

A friend also gave me a Grave-Shell Scarab , Dark Ritual and a playset of Raise Dead , but I'm not sure if those would fit in my deck well

I'll get some Terramorphic Expanses and/or Evolving Wilds, but I fear that Verdant Catacombs is too expensive for me right now (cheapest I can find is 10 bucks). I'll also look into the other cards oyu suggested
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6 months ago  ::  Nov 17, 2012 - 11:24AM #9
CandyWife20
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This isnt directly related to your deck, but your picture cracks me up.
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6 months ago  ::  Nov 17, 2012 - 4:45PM #10
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