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Nov 14, 2012 -- 3:18PM, bay_falconer wrote:

Explain it flavor-wise, please. Is there a reason? Are birds unnatural in some way? If not, quit printing Plummet .

Green isn't all of nature. Swamps, mountains, islands and plains are all natural.
The sky is part of nature, but it belongs mostly to blue and white, not green.
Rocks are natural, fire is natural. But those are red.
Death is natural, disease is natural. But those are mostly black.

Green is the earth, the soil, the forests. Green is growth, spreading plants, big creatures etc.
Green is the colour of the lush places.

Plants don't fly. Elephants don't fly, rhinos don't fly, beasts don't fly. And the earth, the soil, the land itself, that certainly doesn't fly. And much like the Tarrasque in D&D, green isn't happy when things don't play by it's rules; so it doesn't let things fly high above it.

Green is most of nature, and mostly nature, but it isn't identical to nature.

Nov 14, 2012 -- 4:29PM, Kingreaper wrote:

Nov 14, 2012 -- 3:18PM, bay_falconer wrote:

Explain it flavor-wise, please. Is there a reason? Are birds unnatural in some way? If not, quit printing Plummet .

Green isn't all of nature. Swamps, mountains, islands and plains are all natural.
The sky is part of nature, but it belongs mostly to blue and white, not green.
Rocks are natural, fire is natural. But those are red.
Death is natural, disease is natural. But those are mostly black.

Green is the earth, the soil, the forests. Green is growth, spreading plants, big creatures etc.
Green is the colour of the lush places.

Plants don't fly. Elephants don't fly, rhinos don't fly, beasts don't fly. And the earth, the soil, the land itself, that certainly doesn't fly. And much like the Tarrasque in D&D, green isn't happy when things don't play by it's rules; so it doesn't let things fly high above it.

Green is most of nature, and mostly nature, but it isn't identical to nature.

That doesn't explain why green can kill a bird, but not a zombie or reanimated skeleton, things which are unnatural. Maybe I'm missing something?

Nov 14, 2012 -- 7:06PM, HairlessThoctar wrote:

Historical precedence.

Back in the day, all of the colors had lots of hate based on their enemy colors, so red and green (the worst flying colors) hated lots on blue (the best flying color).

Then the color pie became more focused and it became more of a not-flying color hating on flying rather than green hating on blue. 

Ah, the appeal to tradition. The last refuge of someone losing a debate.

Nov 14, 2012 -- 7:33PM, zammm wrote:

Birds (and other flying animals) aren't tied to the earth in this way--the only thing they're tied to is the sky. Green resents this as a perversion of the natural order, a rejection of the earth which all life so fundamentally depends on. Therefore, it hates on things that fly.

Yet many birds live in trees. Bats eat fruit. Bees and hummingbirds are one of the major carriers of pollen. Your argument is invalid.

Nov 15, 2012 -- 6:51AM, K9GM3 wrote:

I'd say it's also because green does not want to resort to evasion. It prefers to go through defenders with trample, or eliminate them with deathtouch. To green, circumventing an opponent's defence is the same as admitting that it is too powerful for you, and green really doesn't like to do that.

The same as removing a creature , no doubt. Next!

Nov 15, 2012 -- 11:34AM, Kingreaper wrote:

Nov 15, 2012 -- 11:15AM, bay_falconer wrote:

 

That doesn't explain why green can kill a bird, but not a zombie or reanimated skeleton, things which are unnatural. Maybe I'm missing something?

Zombies and reanimated skeletons live on the ground, they come from the soil, they're not creatures of the sky, they're creatures of the earth. And green doesn't mind that as much.

Then green certainly won't mind golems either; after all, the things they are made from come from (and never leave) the ground, especially when the ground's made of metal . Your argument is even less valid than before.

Nov 15, 2012 -- 11:34AM, Kingreaper wrote:

Yet many birds live in trees. Bats eat fruit. Bees and hummingbirds are one of the major carriers of pollen. Your argument is invalid.

But birds, bats, etc. fly away, into the sky. They never touch the soil, never interact with it. Your argument is invalid.

But that's not part of green's ideology. Green's ideology is interdependence, expressed best by bees. Trickery is expressed best by an animal that builds traps to catch its prey.

Nov 15, 2012 -- 11:34AM, Kingreaper wrote:

The same as removing a creature , no doubt. Next!

Plummet is removing a cheater. That's not the same as cheating yourself.

That...makes no sense. So you're saying green's a scrub? Dismissed.