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Nov 9, 2012 -- 3:25AM, MetabolicHigh wrote:

Hey thanks for the reply :P I think I am going to convert the griffin deck to W/B, that might add the extra punch it needs. I'm digging Favorable Winds , Sphere of Safety , Azorius First-Wing , Mtenda Griffin , Tethered Griffin , Martial Law , Judge's Familiar , Archon of the Triumvirate and Zuberi, Golden Feather . Negate , Unsummon and Oblivion Ring would definitely help out too. I might also add Curiosity and Sage Owl to the mix. Thanks man!

Updated Griffin Decklist:

Creatures
x4 Griffin Rider
x2 Tethered Griffin
x1 Suntail Hawk
x2 Judge's Familiar
x1 Archon of the Triumvirate
x2 Mtenda Griffin
x2 Griffin Sentinel
x2 Sunspire Griffin
x2 Sage Owl

Spells
x2 Curiosity
x2 Unsummon
x2 Lifelink
x4 Favorable Winds
x2 Pacifism
x3 Oblivion Ring
x2 Martial Law
x1 Sphere of Safety

Lands
x10 Island
x10 Plains
x4 Azorius Guildgate

Any improvements and or ideas?

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This deck is looking better, but its still missing some things I think.  You cant account for every situation in a deck list....that is what sideboards are for.. but I think your deck still has some key weaknesses that can be addressed in your mainboard choices.

For example, Sunspire Griffin isnt really worth it.   3cmc for a 2/3 flyer isnt horrible.. but it isnt great either, and it requires two plains, which is something you want to try and avoid in a dual color deck whenever possible.   You could take two more Griffin Sentinel for example, which has one less power, but does come with vigilance, and only requires 1 plains.  Same with Suntail Hawk .. I understand we are maintaining a bird theme, but a 1/1 flyer for 1cmc is mediocre.  For the same price you could have Jace's Phantasm , which is essentially the same thing, but with the added benefit of being a great late game drop.

You may want to figure out exactly how many griffins you need to make Griffin Rider worth it.  Right now you have 8.   You could..for example.. do this:

4x Griffin Rider
4x Armored Griffin
4x Tethered Griffin
3x Soulcatcher
3x Cloudreach Cavalry
4x Judge's Familiar
2x War Falcon

Then with the spells and enchantments..  I dunno.  I am not a big fan of Lifelink .  I feel like there have to be better 1cmc enchantments out there.   Ethereal Armor for example, would synergize with this deck.  And curiosity is a nice card in the right circumstances.. but you dont have any unblockable creatures, or "tap to deal 1 damage" creatures..so making it work for you consistantly is going to be difficult.

Finally.. you have no defense against burn.  Thats why I like Negate and Curse of Exhaustion .  You may need to include something to keep yourself from getting fried by burn decks.

Anyway..im far from an expert so im not even sure if im giving you good advice :D.  Either way it looks like your deck is improving to me.. so thats good.