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7 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2012 - 4:35AM #1
Shirrif
Date Joined: Aug 7, 2012
Posts: 30
Using Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker as my general. Rushing a bit right now, will add more information later. Feedback still appreciated!


~CREATURES
Apprentice Necromancer
Big Game Hunter
Bone Shredder
Cadaver Imp
Junk Diver
Kuldotha Forgemaster
Leaden Myr
Manakin
Ornithopter
Mindless Automaton
Pentavus
Phyrexian Plaguelord
Pilgrim's Eye
Skirsdag High Priest
Death Cultist
Thoughtpicker Witch
Triskelion
Triskelavus
Workhorse
Viscera Seer
Plagued Rusalka
Abyssal Gatekeeper
Dimir House Guard
Perilous Myr
Memnite
Butcher of Malakir
Harvester of Souls
Myr Retriever
Scavenger Drake
Armor Thrull
Basal Thrull
Infectious Host
Fume Spitter
Deathgreeter


~SORCERY
Diabolic Tutor
Demonic Collusion
Exsanguinate
Temporal Extortion
Dimir Machinations


~INSTANT
Plunge into Darkness
Doom Blade
Terror 


~ARTIFACT
Ashnod's Altar
Expedition Map
Skullclamp
Carnage Altar
Lightning Greaves
Meekstone
Lightning Coils
Blade of the Bloodchief


~ENCHANTMENT
Phyrexian Reclamation
Phyrexian Arena
Attrition
Infernal Tribute


~LAND
Reliquary Tower
Spawning Pool
Temple of the False God
Bojuka Bog
Buried Ruin
33 Swamp s


90/100 cards

Eventually, I want to add a Darksteel Plate / Shield of Kaldra , Duplicant / Sculpting Steel and Solemn Simulacrum . However, since I'm making the list from scratch I can't afford to get all this right now. I probably need more sac outlets, so if you guys could recommend me some that would be great. I might add Bottle Gnomes for some more lifegain, and if I get more expensive artifacts in the list Copper Gnomes might be worth it. Heap Doll could be some nice graveyard hate. Myr Sire would make quite a lot of tokens when combined with a nice sac outlet, and Necropede could melt creatures with the same. For defense, I was thinking of a Steel Wall for all the blocking ever.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2012 - 8:45AM #2
Jangotat13
Date Joined: Oct 17, 2006
Posts: 2,982
I really like this idea. Stuffy Doll maybe? Also, I think you may wish to look into adding more protection for your general, as without him much of your plan falls apart. 
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2012 - 10:32AM #3
malpheas
Date Joined: Dec 10, 2006
Posts: 1,419
I really like Shirei.  I've found that whenever I've tried to use him as a general he doesn't have the colours that give him as much reach as I'd like.  So I tossed him in my Adun Oakenshield deck, which is based closer around Shirei than Adun.

Creatures that would help your cause more:

Blood Artist
Falkenrath Noble

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 09, 2012 - 3:51PM #4
Shirrif
Date Joined: Aug 7, 2012
Posts: 30
Updated list can be found here; tappedout.net/mtg-decks/shirei-edh-08-11...
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 09, 2012 - 4:27PM #5
Pontiac
Date Joined: Apr 4, 2011
Posts: 2,982
Coffin Queen
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 10, 2012 - 11:36PM #6
felduir
Date Joined: Feb 8, 2008
Posts: 814
You're missing a really key piece to any mono block deck. Cabal Coffers is amazing and should be played any probably tutored for every game. Another card that's awesome for your deck: Grave Pact . In fact thtat card is so awesome that you've probably already seen it and are just having trouble getting hold of it. Liliana Vess is a great turtor and win condition.

Corpse Dance is freaking retarded. You'll probably have to order it online unless you live near a card shop with a large stock, but it wins games. Just sac the creature before end of turn to put it back in your grave and then get it back to play permenantly with your general.

Mikaeus, the Unhallowed lets you go infinite with triskilion as well as protexting your general though it does mess up the recursion so it might not be worthwhile.

Phyrexian Arena and it's new land hungry copy deserve spots too.
Grow old or die trying.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 11, 2012 - 12:26PM #7
Shirrif
Date Joined: Aug 7, 2012
Posts: 30
I'm actually getting hold of a [c/]Liliana Vess[/c] soon, and she will definately go in - although she won't be a wincon, since I doubt I'll ever use her +1. And yes, Grave Pact and Cabal Coffers are both amazing and I want them both, but they are proving hard to get hold of without just buying them, and they are both a fair chunk of cash. I've never seen Corpse Dance before, but it looks perfect for the deck! I'm not a fan of Mikaeus, the Unhallowed , I don't like how he gives everything +1/+1 - at least, not in this deck!
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 15, 2012 - 5:58PM #8
drmdzh
Date Joined: Sep 16, 2007
Posts: 173
Shirei is my favorite general to play. I have been tinkering with my deck for 5(?) years now. I run more of a sac theme - Grave Pact, Braids, Butcher of Malakir, Smoke Stack, Possesed Portal.

I think you need a few more things that can sac themselves - I find Bottle Gnomes to be excellent.

Beware of Skullclamp - it prevents your 1 power creatures from coming back if you use it on them.

You'll find Mindless Automaton one of the best cards in the deck. In multiplayer you're drawing on each persons turn, and with Grave Pact out, you also pretty much clear the board in one round. If you can get Grave Pact, Mindless Automaton and It That Betrays out, you pretty much win the game :-)

On that note, beware playing Grave Pact too early. With Shirei it is so powerful you will be a target quickly. You need more protection from Shirei. This deck effects all opponents at the table and you must have Shirei out for most of your tricks to work, so he (she?) becomes a target very quickly once people catch on to your tricks.

Don't forget lands like Inkmoth Nexus . If it's a creature as it goes to the graveyard, Shirei brings it back at end of turn!

If you can get one, get Black Market. You need lots of mana to bring Shirei back - he WILL get fried. Black Market, with your sac outlets/Grave Pact etc, can get you 8-10 mana the first upkeep it's in and it takes a few turns before someone deals with it in mulitplayer because it's not a "direct" threat or annoyance to them.

And finally, and I have said this before in other threads, I have won games with Chimney Imp. Players don't talk to you afterwards.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 15, 2012 - 7:55PM #9
ir0nwood
Date Joined: Oct 5, 2007
Posts: 1,100

You'll find Mindless Automaton one of the best cards in the deck.




So much this. Also Workhorse is well, a workhorse in Shirei.

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 15, 2012 - 10:14PM #10
Portalis
Date Joined: May 31, 2005
Posts: 1,135
Priest of Yawgmoth or Soldevi Adnate for more mana
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