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7 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2012 - 12:45AM #1
felisdomesticus
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A degenerate combo deck (eggs) won the pro tour, the highest level of competition in magic.  The whole point of the banlist is to prevent degenerate combo decks from beating players who win fairly.  Therefore, I propose that the following items be added to the banlist:

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2012 - 7:28AM #2
jnp5021
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Eggs isn't that hard to beat...it won cuz no one was expecting it or had sb options for it. Sure they dig fast and furious... But that doesn't mean you need to ban them...
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2012 - 7:48AM #3
fuzzyvision
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Obviously you have never played with an "eggs" deck.  It is a very hard combo deck to pilot (way harder than storm) and can easily be hated out.  The reason Cifka won the pro-tour with it was that he made a brilliant prediction of the meta-game (and he's a master chess player on top of that).  Just because a deck won one tournament isn't reason enough to call for banning cards and quite frankly I would be shocked if another "eggs" deck won another tournament this season. 

   
   
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2012 - 7:51AM #4
JBTM
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Nov 8, 2012 -- 12:45AM, felisdomesticus wrote:

The whole point of the banlist is to prevent degenerate combo decks from beating players who win fairly. 



No it's not.  Most of the "degenerate" decks that led to bannings were not combo decks.

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2012 - 1:55PM #5
malpheas
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Oh hey it's Felis again.  I think it's a new Zokorad acct.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2012 - 4:39PM #6
felisdomesticus
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Yeah, eggs is SUCH a hard deck to pilot.  You play artifacts and sacrifice them and cast second sunrise. 
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 09, 2012 - 7:09PM #7
Renasce
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You know, considering the kind of threads you make, OP, I think you ought to change your avatar. It doesn't really suit you.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 10, 2012 - 3:33PM #8
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Nov 9, 2012 -- 7:09PM, Renasce wrote:

You know, considering the kind of threads you make, OP, I think you ought to change your avatar. It doesn't really suit you.



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7 months ago  ::  Nov 10, 2012 - 7:01PM #9
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Antistorm cards like Ethersworn Canonist and anti combo cards like Memoricide or Cranial Extraction are all you need to take out eggs.

Just no one expected storm or eggs. 
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 11, 2012 - 11:55PM #10
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Nov 8, 2012 -- 7:48AM, fuzzyvision wrote:

Obviously you have never played with an "eggs" deck.  It is a very hard combo deck to pilot (way harder than storm) and can easily be hated out.  The reason Cifka won the pro-tour with it was that he made a brilliant prediction of the meta-game (and he's a master chess player on top of that).  Just because a deck won one tournament isn't reason enough to call for banning cards and quite frankly I would be shocked if another "eggs" deck won another tournament this season. 




Exactly, and based on the top 16 at chicago it seems like the format is pretty wide open at the moment. I mean sure, the lingering souls jund (whatever name sticks) happens to be pretty strong right now, but I don't feel like any of those cards deserve banning.

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