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8 months ago  ::  Nov 14, 2012 - 1:47PM #11
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Y'all postin' in a Troll thread...
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 22, 2012 - 2:43PM #12
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Nov 14, 2012 -- 1:47PM, MRHblue wrote:

Y'all postin' in a Troll thread...





Seconded. Although Cefka's appearance with "eggs" was like the Spanish Inquisitorial Squad, no one expected it/them. Cefka's my kind of MtG player.


They've already banned Ponder and Preordain too, which is why cards like SoH and Serum Visions are even being used. Gutting those would gut blue completely and now I see where this is going considering the OP.

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 24, 2012 - 8:53AM #13
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I'm glad you agree that it's like spanish inquisition, another overpowered combo deck that led to changes in the B&R list, specifically the restriction of burning wish.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 26, 2012 - 6:54AM #14
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Nov 8, 2012 -- 12:45AM, felisdomesticus wrote:

A degenerate combo deck (eggs) won the pro tour, the highest level of competition in magic.  The whole point of the banlist is to prevent degenerate combo decks from beating players who win fairly.  Therefore, I propose that the following items be added to the banlist:

sleight of hand
serum visions
chromatic sphere
chromatic star 





Modern does NOT need to ban more cards. Less would be preferable. There are ways to beat every deck and eggs is a combo deck that is dismantled by removing one or two key cards... Here are two good sideboard cards that work very well against eggs and ANY other deck.

Surgical Extraction - 0 Mana cost and instant speed means you can play this without even taking a turn. Use this to remove all the second sunrise cards from the deck and see how well eggs can combo after that... You can also remove his noxious revival and any other key cards they have... Tutor for surgical extraction is easy with cards like Merchant Scroll or the transmute ability.

Second card....

Rest in Peace. Done.

There are lots of cards that will hose "Eggs". The reason it won is because no one was expecting it and probably didn't sideboard or top deck the right cards. 

Yellling to ban more cards solves nothing and there's no reason in this case. Is it a degenerate combo deck? Maybe. It's very boring and is easily countered by anyone with a decent sideboard. 

You're calling for a ban on sleight of hand? Are you kidding me.... What a joke.

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 26, 2012 - 2:42PM #15
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Nov 26, 2012 -- 6:54AM, Zylo- wrote:

Nov 8, 2012 -- 12:45AM, felisdomesticus wrote:

A degenerate combo deck (eggs) won the pro tour, the highest level of competition in magic.  The whole point of the banlist is to prevent degenerate combo decks from beating players who win fairly.  Therefore, I propose that the following items be added to the banlist:

sleight of hand
serum visions
chromatic sphere
chromatic star 





Modern does NOT need to ban more cards. Less would be preferable. There are ways to beat every deck and eggs is a combo deck that is dismantled by removing one or two key cards... Here are two good sideboard cards that work very well against eggs and ANY other deck.

Surgical Extraction - 0 Mana cost and instant speed means you can play this without even taking a turn. Use this to remove all the second sunrise cards from the deck and see how well eggs can combo after that... You can also remove his noxious revival and any other key cards they have... Tutor for surgical extraction is easy with cards like Merchant Scroll or the transmute ability.

Second card....

Rest in Peace. Done.

There are lots of cards that will hose "Eggs". The reason it won is because no one was expecting it and probably didn't sideboard or top deck the right cards. 

Yellling to ban more cards solves nothing and there's no reason in this case. Is it a degenerate combo deck? Maybe. It's very boring and is easily countered by anyone with a decent sideboard. 

You're calling for a ban on sleight of hand? Are you kidding me.... What a joke.



I tried what you said, using merchant scroll to fetch surgical extraction, but my opponent called a judge on me.

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7 months ago  ::  Dec 04, 2012 - 1:51AM #16
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lol you scamp
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Come play Magic the way it was meant to be played: http://community.wizards.com/go/forum/view/75842/134942/Vintage
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7 months ago  ::  Dec 09, 2012 - 6:01PM #17
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Nov 26, 2012 -- 2:42PM, felisdomesticus wrote:


I tried what you said, using merchant scroll to fetch surgical extraction, but my opponent called a judge on me.



I said you can use cards like merchant scroll or utilize the transmute ability.

Diabolic Tutor will find it and there are other cards. Dizzy spell can transmute into surgical extraction. 

I'm sorry. I thought you were a magic player and could figure out different ways to find the card you need. i didn't realize I had to be totally specific on exact cards.

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7 months ago  ::  Dec 09, 2012 - 7:02PM #18
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Yeah, but transmuting for 3 at instant speed is just ugly. Your point about sideboard hate is a good one -eggs relied entirely on the fact that the tech of choice didn't interact with it- but the way you said it, in a troll thread no less, left you wide open to a friendly jab.

Apr 16, 2012 -- 9:12PM, Uhhsam wrote:


Luckily, we have stop-having-fun guys to remind us that having anything more than 60 cards in your deck is tantamount to being a rapist and anyone considering it should be strung up by their **** .

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