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Flag BrewskyUK November 7, 2012 6:17 AM PST
I am a little gutted there are only 30 cards in the new dlc, and I am annoyed there is never any real notice before new content is released.  I also think there are aspects of 2013 that can be improved.

Ok fair enough, I guess you can be a little annoyed that the two new card pools are smaller than the others.  Remember 2012 though.  We only had a pool of 90 cards.  Now we have a card pool of 100+ AND Wizards gave us promotional unlocks for FREE, which for the most part, improved the decks.  Any other company would have charged or not bothered at all.  As well as this, they have fixed issues that people have had with the game and seem keen to fix things in the future.

I've been reading a lot of people saying stuff like "I'm not buying the next dlc until there are promo unlocks."  Honestly, this deck pack doesn't look that appealing to me, but I'm still going to buy it.  The reason why is that I want to support the franchise.  I want Wizards to be able to justify putting more man power, resources, and cash into future installments of the game.

I didn't play the first Magic DOTP but I did play 2012 ALOT.  I also play 2013 ALOT.  I love these games.  Download the decks with me, and let's all try and slap Nicol Bolas in the face with them... HARD.  In my opinion, I can only see things improving.
Flag Splattercat November 7, 2012 6:47 AM PST

Nov 7, 2012 -- 6:17AM, BrewskyUK wrote:

I've been reading a lot of people saying stuff like "I'm not buying the next dlc until there are promo unlocks."  Honestly, this deck pack doesn't look that appealing to me, but I'm still going to buy it.  The reason why is that I want to support the franchise.  I want Wizards to be able to justify putting more man power, resources, and cash into future installments of the game.



I want to support them too.
I also want an explanation as to why they lazed out on the last 6 decks.
I mean, what kind of design team can sit there and say "All the decks are getting 40 cards to unlock.....Except these ones."
I want to know how they could do evreything else as well as they did, but then, not even drop the ball, but shove a railroad spike through the ball and throw the ball into a fire, on something as simple as how many cards to put in the decks.
Really, I want to know the mentality behind it. Because on paper it sounds like a really really stupid decision. And I have a big issue with stupid people.

Flag BrewskyUK November 7, 2012 6:51 AM PST

Nov 7, 2012 -- 6:47AM, Splattercat wrote:

Nov 7, 2012 -- 6:17AM, BrewskyUK wrote:

I've been reading a lot of people saying stuff like "I'm not buying the next dlc until there are promo unlocks."  Honestly, this deck pack doesn't look that appealing to me, but I'm still going to buy it.  The reason why is that I want to support the franchise.  I want Wizards to be able to justify putting more man power, resources, and cash into future installments of the game.



I want to support them too.
I also want an explanation as to why they lazed out on the last 6 decks.
I mean, what kind of design team can sit there and say "All the decks are getting 40 cards to unlock.....Except these ones."
I want to know how they could do evreything else as well as they did, but then, not even drop the ball, but shove a railroad spike through the ball and throw the ball into a fire, on something as simple as how many cards to put in the decks.
Really, I want to know the mentality behind it. Because on paper it sounds like a really really stupid decision. And I have a big issue with stupid people.


Is it 100% confirmed that they won't be releasing additional cards for the upcoming decks at a later stage?

Flag Splattercat November 7, 2012 6:51 AM PST

Nov 7, 2012 -- 6:51AM, BrewskyUK wrote:

Is it 100% confirmed that they won't be releasing additional cards for the upcoming decks at a later stage?



I want to know that too.

Flag BrewskyUK November 7, 2012 6:56 AM PST

Nov 7, 2012 -- 6:51AM, Splattercat wrote:

Nov 7, 2012 -- 6:51AM, BrewskyUK wrote:

Is it 100% confirmed that they won't be releasing additional cards for the upcoming decks at a later stage?



I want to know that too.


Yeah see this is why I think people are jumping the gun and complaining too soon.  Personally I'd enjoy coming home from work one day to find that 10 extra cards have been released for the upcoming decks once I think I know them inside out.  Changing the game improves the game!

Maybe they'll introduce a fee for those who complained? Laughing

Flag monk1410 November 7, 2012 6:59 AM PST
I am sure it will all be linked into the gatecrash prerelease where you get codes for attending
Flag BrewskyUK November 7, 2012 7:03 AM PST

Nov 7, 2012 -- 6:59AM, monk1410 wrote:

I am sure it will all be linked into the gatecrash prerelease where you get codes for attending


Yeah that's a good shout.  Fingers crossed.

Flag Krabboss November 7, 2012 7:10 AM PST
It's not a matter of 2013 in general having way more cards than 2012. It's a matter of 6 decks being stuck with 30 cards (maybe) while all others have 40. Everybody would be happy if every deck had 30 and everybody would be happy if every deck had 40. It's a little tough to buy into these deck packs when they may underperform because they don't have the often powerful promo cards.
Flag sixty4half November 7, 2012 8:08 AM PST

Nov 7, 2012 -- 6:47AM, Splattercat wrote:

Nov 7, 2012 -- 6:17AM, BrewskyUK wrote:

I've been reading a lot of people saying stuff like "I'm not buying the next dlc until there are promo unlocks."  Honestly, this deck pack doesn't look that appealing to me, but I'm still going to buy it.  The reason why is that I want to support the franchise.  I want Wizards to be able to justify putting more man power, resources, and cash into future installments of the game.



I want to support them too.
I also want an explanation as to why they lazed out on the last 6 decks.
I mean, what kind of design team can sit there and say "All the decks are getting 40 cards to unlock.....Except these ones."
I want to know how they could do evreything else as well as they did, but then, not even drop the ball, but shove a railroad spike through the ball and throw the ball into a fire, on something as simple as how many cards to put in the decks.
Really, I want to know the mentality behind it. Because on paper it sounds like a really really stupid decision. And I have a big issue with stupid people.




"It's a good value."  -Splattercat

Flag Splattercat November 7, 2012 8:12 AM PST

Nov 7, 2012 -- 8:08AM, sixty4half wrote:

It's a good value."  -Splattercat



Umm...Okay?

Relevance?

Trolling?

Your point?

Did I say the deck packs were a bad value anywhere?

Quotes please....


You know sixty, since you're the absolute WORST for taking everything I say out of context, maybe this will put things into pespective for you:

I don't give a sailing **** about the "value". I am annoyed at the seemingly random choice made by a design team to give 15 decks 40 cards and 6 decks 30 cards. It gives the decks less to work with than the others. It gives the decks less variety. I am of the opinion that this is not a good thing. I am of the opinion that a design team consciously made this not good decision and I will hold to that opinion until evidence shows otherwise, then I will reconsider it. 

So if you want to quote something, or paraphrase since you've NEVER been able to quote anything you've claimed I've said, quote that.

Flag konokono November 7, 2012 8:37 AM PST
Is it even fair to say that 15 decks were given 40 cards?  Remember, the promo unlocks were PROMOTIONAL.  They were never meant to be unlockable through the course of ordinary play, so who's to say that the majority of players even got the codes?  As has been pointed out many times, forum-goers are a minority of the player base.  From the official base product, each deck only has 30 cards.

I understand the frustration.  Who doesn't want an extra 10 cards when we were used to having them already?  But to suggest that this is some major failing on the part of Wizards or Stainless, I think, is being unfair
Flag Karstien November 7, 2012 9:49 AM PST
My issue isn't with the 10 cards being missing. I would love them in the decks, true enough, but my problem is the classic 'wall of silence' marketing strategy being laid out here. A lot of people who have the game don't even know about these forums, and will be expecting promo unlocks. Hate to be one of them and not know exactly what i'm buying. On top of that, Wizards-Sean has been all over these forums in the days leading up to the release of the deck pack. Where is he now we want a simple yes or no answer regarding promo cards? If he has time off, then why aren't we getting an answer from somebody else? Is it really that hard? Hell, I would even accept 'I don't know' as an answer for now, at least it's honest, but instead we get absolutely nothing at all. 

I've been informed he likes to be contacted via pm, and sure enough, he said he always answers quickly. I know one person at least has pm'd him, where is he? He says he get's email alerts when pm'd, so ignoring it is my guess. And THAT is my issue.  
Flag Wizards_Sean November 7, 2012 10:20 AM PST
I've posted a reply HERE concerning the new DLC and extra card unlocks.
Flag Splattercat November 7, 2012 11:24 AM PST

Nov 7, 2012 -- 8:37AM, konokono wrote:

Is it even fair to say that 15 decks were given 40 cards?  Remember, the promo unlocks were PROMOTIONAL.  They were never meant to be unlockable through the course of ordinary play, so who's to say that the majority of players even got the codes?  As has been pointed out many times, forum-goers are a minority of the player base.  From the official base product, each deck only has 30 cards.

I understand the frustration.  Who doesn't want an extra 10 cards when we were used to having them already?  But to suggest that this is some major failing on the part of Wizards or Stainless, I think, is being unfair



It's perfectly fair. The people that designed the decks had to have playtested them to make them as balanced as they are. And they had to have tested them with the Promo cards. So why stop short?

In the final analysis, after the last decks are released, we will have 15 decks with 40 extra cards to customize with, and 6 decks with 30 unlockables to customize with. They had to have known this going in...


Flag NimNams November 7, 2012 6:13 PM PST

Nov 7, 2012 -- 6:17AM, BrewskyUK wrote:

I've been reading a lot of people saying stuff like "I'm not buying the next dlc until there are promo unlocks."  Honestly, this deck pack doesn't look that appealing to me, but I'm still going to buy it.  The reason why is that I want to support the franchise.  I want Wizards to be able to justify putting more man power, resources, and cash into future installments of the game.




While I totally get your point and, to an extent, even agree with the sentiment, I'm on the flip side of the quote above. Ultimately, we're not supporting a charity or a social movement - we're talking about a product that we pay for. As such, our obligation to back this product is non-existent when we're not happy with what's for sale. Really, I can think of no better way of voicing our disapproval than with our wallets.

If we're striving to show WotC what we actually want from this game, skipping purchase on the deck packs makes sense: the core game gave us tons of content for a (comparatively) fair price. These deck packs are quite a bit more expensive per deck, and with less content. If we take exception, now is the time to say so, and our money is the way to voice it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating a ban on anyone buying the deck pack. But I do think it's fair and legitimate to feel gouged by this latest offering, to such an extent that people decide not to buy it. If that doesn't improve WotC's offering, nothing will.

Flag Elijinite November 7, 2012 6:54 PM PST
This topic should be why you should support the DOTP franchise and never stop complaining.


Not even poking fun, we should continue to support the product as companies will often see bad sales as 'Well that wasnt worth doing, lets not do it again'

But we should also complain, as the community has done since DOTP '09 and each iteration of the game since has made steps towards addressing those complaints.

So yeah, keep buying, but keep complaining too. If you stop complaining, you're telling a business that everything is perfect, and to continue as is.



Which all that said. You can make complaints and not be dicks. You can also still be gratious and appreaciative alongside complaints. Its not an either or extreme.
Flag puzzledmint November 7, 2012 7:03 PM PST
Conversely, one could argue that if you keep paying for poorly-supported products, companies will often see that as an excuse to keep releasing poorly-supported products.

Which is why any responsible consumer should not purchase any product that is not up to your personal standards. What, exactly, those standards are is something that only you can decide.

A responsible consumer should also tell the company, in detail, the exact problems with the product that caused you to not purchase it, and tell them that you would only consider purchasing similar products in future if those problems are addressed.


When a company keeps making money, there is no reason for them to change anything. It's only when they start making less money that they start looking for what went wrong and how to fix it.
Flag Hakeem928 November 7, 2012 10:48 PM PST

Nov 7, 2012 -- 6:13PM, NimNams wrote:

Nov 7, 2012 -- 6:17AM, BrewskyUK wrote:

I've been reading a lot of people saying stuff like "I'm not buying the next dlc until there are promo unlocks."  Honestly, this deck pack doesn't look that appealing to me, but I'm still going to buy it.  The reason why is that I want to support the franchise.  I want Wizards to be able to justify putting more man power, resources, and cash into future installments of the game.




While I totally get your point and, to an extent, even agree with the sentiment, I'm on the flip side of the quote above. Ultimately, we're not supporting a charity or a social movement - we're talking about a product that we pay for. As such, our obligation to back this product is non-existent when we're not happy with what's for sale. Really, I can think of no better way of voicing our disapproval than with our wallets.

If we're striving to show WotC what we actually want from this game, skipping purchase on the deck packs makes sense: the core game gave us tons of content for a (comparatively) fair price. These deck packs are quite a bit more expensive per deck, and with less content. If we take exception, now is the time to say so, and our money is the way to voice it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating a ban on anyone buying the deck pack. But I do think it's fair and legitimate to feel gouged by this latest offering, to such an extent that people decide not to buy it. If that doesn't improve WotC's offering, nothing will.




Intelligent debate... such a rarity. And I agree 100%.

Flag Hakeem928 November 7, 2012 10:52 PM PST

Nov 7, 2012 -- 7:03PM, puzzledmint wrote:

Conversely, one could argue that if you keep paying for poorly-supported products, companies will often see that as an excuse to keep releasing poorly-supported products.

Which is why any responsible consumer should not purchase any product that is not up to your personal standards. What, exactly, those standards are is something that only you can decide.

A responsible consumer should also tell the company, in detail, the exact problems with the product that caused you to not purchase it, and tell them that you would only consider purchasing similar products in future if those problems are addressed.


When a company keeps making money, there is no reason for them to change anything. It's only when they start making less money that they start looking for what went wrong and how to fix it.




Companies are full of people. People are lazy. Companies are therefore lazy.

It's human nature...

Flag RPJesus November 7, 2012 11:01 PM PST

Nov 7, 2012 -- 6:47AM, Splattercat wrote:


I want to know how they could do evreything else as well as they did, but then, not even drop the ball, but shove a railroad spike through the ball and throw the ball into a fire, on something as simple as how many cards to put in the decks.



I take it you suffer from OCD?
Although if you wanna talk about dropping the ball, has the whole singleton thing been brought up? Like yeah, I get that they have a limited number of cards (30 or 40 either way), and they want some variety, but it bugs me that Krenko's deck only gets one copy of Krenko. Not that Goblin Gangland Style needs the help, but it's the principle of the thing (Although I mean, it's not really an issue, just one of those little things). And the fact that I would run 40 Krenkos and 20 mountains if the game allowed it (Even if he is a cheap Marrow-Gnawer knockoff) :33.

Flag The1udontc November 7, 2012 11:40 PM PST
Since it has been confirmed that the promo cards being excluded from the decks was by design I can surely say that I wont be purchasing the future deck packs. I see no overwhelming need to as SS is just about as complete of a deck as I've ever seen. Might as well send them a message even if I only am one person. 
Flag Grunthex November 8, 2012 12:41 AM PST
To address the thread title directly -- first off, depends which franchise you mean.  Stainless might deserve some support.  not sure, they certainly aren't willing to provide much.  Wizards... no.  They're a predatory franchise.  I suppose that makes me their prey, since I like their game, but still, they don't need any support, they're more than willing to rip it out of the thousands of suckers who buy their real cards.

And no one should ever stop complaining.  That's what gets things changed.
Flag Splattercat November 8, 2012 5:52 AM PST

Nov 7, 2012 -- 11:01PM, RPJesus wrote:

I take it you suffer from OCD?



I take it you suffer from BAIQ?

Nov 7, 2012 -- 11:01PM, RPJesus wrote:

Although if you wanna talk about dropping the ball, has the whole singleton thing been brought up? Like yeah, I get that they have a limited number of cards (30 or 40 either way), and they want some variety-- but it bugs me that Krenko's deck only gets one copy of Krenko. Not that Goblin Gangland Style needs the help, but it's the principle of the thing (Although I mean, it's not really an issue, just one of those little things). And the fact that I would run 40 Krenkos and 20 mountains if the game allowed it (Even if he is a cheap Marrow-Gnawer knockoff) :33.




Okay yeah, I have issues with some of the deck composition choices as well... But those can always be swept under the 'Game Balance' rug. If they used the most optimum cards in the most optimum quantity available Blue would always win.

Also..... 40 Krenkos and 20 mountains is a horrible deck...

Flag RPJesus November 8, 2012 7:30 AM PST

Nov 8, 2012 -- 5:52AM, Splattercat wrote:

Nov 7, 2012 -- 11:01PM, RPJesus wrote:

I take it you suffer from OCD?



I take it you suffer from BAIQ?



Badass IQ? I wouldn't call it suffering, but totally :33. But yeah, don't take offense, I was just curious, since it seems like the numbers not matching up is an incredibly minor issue to be referred to as "dropping the ball and putting a railroad spike through it." (And this is coming from somebody who was quite upset with the game for not knowing the meaning of the word "reveal" until somebody explained that it does know the word "reveal," it's just a total guide dang it). 

Nov 7, 2012 -- 11:01PM, RPJesus wrote:

Okay yeah, I have issues with some of the deck composition choices as well... But those can always be swept under the 'Game Balance' rug. If they used the most optimum cards in the most optimum quantity available Blue would always win.



True, though I'm not asking for Raffinity and Flash Hulk or anything, it just kind of bugs me when they're all like CHANDRA'S DECK! WITH REAL CHANDRA ACTION! (chandra not included.)

Also..... 40 Krenkos and 20 mountains is a horrible deck...



Probably, I was being hyperbolic to better express how ridonculous he is in Goblin Gangland Style.

Flag Splattercat November 8, 2012 8:02 AM PST

Nov 8, 2012 -- 7:30AM, RPJesus wrote:

Nov 8, 2012 -- 5:52AM, Splattercat wrote:

Nov 7, 2012 -- 11:01PM, RPJesus wrote:

I take it you suffer from OCD?



I take it you suffer from BAIQ?



Badass IQ? I wouldn't call it suffering, but totally :33. But yeah, don't take offense, I was just curious, since it seems like the numbers not matching up is an incredibly minor issue to be referred to as "dropping the ball and putting a railroad spike through it." (And this is coming from somebody who was quite upset with the game for not knowing the meaning of the word "reveal" until somebody explained that it does know the word "reveal," it's just a total guide dang it). 



No, I'm not Obsessive anything or Compulsive anything. 

"Dropping the ball" doesn't really do the situation justice though. I mean, it's not like they made a mistake. They made a concsious decision to make 6 decks that have less options than the others.

I'm not a fan of that kind of gross inconsistancy, especially when it's by design. If I were part of that design team and someone said "we're not going to include the last 10 cards for these 6 decks" I would say "Um, why would we do that? Seriously, why? If you're too lazy to finish your job then piss off."

Flag Hakeem928 November 8, 2012 8:09 AM PST

Nov 8, 2012 -- 8:02AM, Splattercat wrote:

Nov 8, 2012 -- 7:30AM, RPJesus wrote:

Nov 8, 2012 -- 5:52AM, Splattercat wrote:

Nov 7, 2012 -- 11:01PM, RPJesus wrote:

I take it you suffer from OCD?



I take it you suffer from BAIQ?



Badass IQ? I wouldn't call it suffering, but totally :33. But yeah, don't take offense, I was just curious, since it seems like the numbers not matching up is an incredibly minor issue to be referred to as "dropping the ball and putting a railroad spike through it." (And this is coming from somebody who was quite upset with the game for not knowing the meaning of the word "reveal" until somebody explained that it does know the word "reveal," it's just a total guide dang it). 



No, I'm not Obsessive anything or Compulsive anything. 

"Dropping the ball" doesn't really do the situation justice though. I mean, it's not like they made a mistake. They made a concsious decision to make 6 decks that have less options than the others.

I'm not a fan of that kind of gross inconsistancy, especially when it's by design. If I were part of that design team and someone said "we're not going to include the last 10 cards for these 6 decks" I would say "Um, why would we do that? Seriously, why? If you're too lazy to finish your job then piss off."




[ hypocrisy ] I don't like to get involved in this sort of thing [ /hypocrisy ], but it really feels like they were miffed at the leak and cut the content from spite.

Flag Splattercat November 8, 2012 8:17 AM PST

Nov 8, 2012 -- 8:09AM, Hakeem928 wrote:

[ hypocrisy ] I don't like to get involved in this sort of thing [ /hypocrisy ], but it really feels like they were miffed at the leak and cut the content from spite.



I'd thought of that, but there's no evidence to support it, and they're not going to come out and say "we cut the cards out because you guys ruined our promo".

Also, strictly speaking, what would they have to gain from that? I mean, it's obvious that there would be people that won't buy the decks when they find out they have less cards in them.

Flag Hakeem928 November 8, 2012 8:19 AM PST

Nov 8, 2012 -- 8:17AM, Splattercat wrote:

Nov 8, 2012 -- 8:09AM, Hakeem928 wrote:

[ hypocrisy ] I don't like to get involved in this sort of thing [ /hypocrisy ], but it really feels like they were miffed at the leak and cut the content from spite.



I'd thought of that, but there's no evidence to support it, and they're not going to come out and say "we cut the cards out because you guys ruined our promo".

Also, strictly speaking, what would they have to gain from that? I mean, it's obvious that there would be people that won't buy the decks when they find out they have less cards in them.




I'm sure it isn't the case, but I just can't shake that feeling, you know?

Flag dgb November 8, 2012 9:31 AM PST
Gee there sure are alot of whiners and moaners on the forum now - pretty tiresome to read TBH. I feel sorry for Sean, he probably has to read all this.
Flag Splattercat November 8, 2012 9:56 AM PST

Nov 8, 2012 -- 9:31AM, dgb wrote:

Gee there sure are alot of whiners and moaners on the forum now - pretty tiresome to read TBH. I feel sorry for Sean, he probably has to read all this.



Look on the bright side. Least the trolls are almost all gone.


Also, could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Sean gets paid to read this, even insofar as he works for Wizards and this is one of his assigned tasks. If so I don't feel sorry for him. I mean, I wouldn't feel sorry for myself if I had to play liason to this forum. I'm sure he's up to the job, otherwise he wouldn't have it.

Flag BrewskyUK November 8, 2012 3:16 PM PST

Nov 7, 2012 -- 10:20AM, Wizards_Sean wrote:

I've posted a reply HERE concerning the new DLC and extra card unlocks.




Cheers for letting us know the score Sean. And I've read the comments you guys posted. I can see the argument for complaining as customers. I think overall I wanted us to remember the original expansion cards were a gift, and damn good value for money at £0! Anyways, now need to get to bed and dream up ways of taking everyone down in this 2HG ladder SalukiJ is running....Mwahahahahahahaha.... Take it easy people, and thanks for the responses.

Flag 12345guy November 8, 2012 3:22 PM PST
i will also continue  to support this franchise there alot of people who are there very few that are steamed over the promo cards and are not gonna get future dlc.What i say to those people are who cares when im beating you with the dlc decks don't get mad and kick me out of the room cause you don't have the dlc lol.
Flag Markov.Loremaster November 13, 2012 12:35 AM PST
I'm actually not too upset over the lack of promo cards for the Deck Packs. I only haven't purchased the DLCs immediately due to the save-data-erase bug that seems to accompany each of the DLCs. If not for that, more than likely, I would buy the DLCs as soon as they came out, no questions asked.

I only took a chance with the first expansion DLC because I was bored out of my mind, having played the basic decks so much, and they were 50% off on Steam.
Flag djAMPnz November 13, 2012 5:53 AM PST

Nov 7, 2012 -- 11:01PM, RPJesus wrote:

Although if you wanna talk about dropping the ball, has the whole singleton thing been brought up? Like yeah, I get that they have a limited number of cards (30 or 40 either way), and they want some variety, but it bugs me that Krenko's deck only gets one copy of Krenko. Not that Goblin Gangland Style needs the help, but it's the principle of the thing (Although I mean, it's not really an issue, just one of those little things). And the fact that I would run 40 Krenkos and 20 mountains if the game allowed it (Even if he is a cheap Marrow-Gnawer knockoff) :33.




Oh my! (If I write that at the start of this post, will you read the whole thing in the voice of George Takei?)

I'm sure you understand why that deck you suggested would never work, so I won't address that. But, the reason there is only one Krenko is that they only ever put one copy of any legendary creature in any deck in DotP. And even if they didn't follow their 'one of each legendary' rule, he is the 'leader' (I didn't want to say 'commander', hehe) of that deck and there can really be only one leader. He has a cool effect, sure, but they seem to take way more into consideration when creating the decks than just cool effects.

I seem to go off topic a bit, don't I?

Anyway, on topic: I agree with those who are saying that you should keep 'complaining', because that is how they are going to know what is wrong with the game. Though praise is due too, there is a lot right with the game. Also, the reason I put the word 'complaining' in quotation marks is that I never really liked that word, it sounds too much like 'whining' to me. Is there another, less irksome synonym? As far as whether or not you should buy the game/expansions, the choice, and the reasons for that choice, should be entirely up to the buyer.

Bah, I always start to ramble at 3 in the morning.

Flag konokono November 13, 2012 6:57 AM PST
Yeah I actually like the "1 copy" of legendary creatures rule that DOTP follows.  It appeals to the Vorthos within me.
Flag Hakeem928 November 13, 2012 7:14 AM PST

Nov 13, 2012 -- 5:53AM, djAMPnz wrote:

Nov 7, 2012 -- 11:01PM, RPJesus wrote:

Although if you wanna talk about dropping the ball, has the whole singleton thing been brought up? Like yeah, I get that they have a limited number of cards (30 or 40 either way), and they want some variety, but it bugs me that Krenko's deck only gets one copy of Krenko. Not that Goblin Gangland Style needs the help, but it's the principle of the thing (Although I mean, it's not really an issue, just one of those little things). And the fact that I would run 40 Krenkos and 20 mountains if the game allowed it (Even if he is a cheap Marrow-Gnawer knockoff) :33.


But, the reason there is only one Krenko is that they only ever put one copy of any legendary creature in any deck in DotP.




GM gets two Kaervek the Merciless . I was playing CW last night and Bribed one. That was fun.

Flag Splattercat November 13, 2012 9:10 AM PST

Nov 13, 2012 -- 7:14AM, Hakeem928 wrote:

Nov 13, 2012 -- 5:53AM, djAMPnz wrote:

Nov 7, 2012 -- 11:01PM, RPJesus wrote:

Although if you wanna talk about dropping the ball, has the whole singleton thing been brought up? Like yeah, I get that they have a limited number of cards (30 or 40 either way), and they want some variety, but it bugs me that Krenko's deck only gets one copy of Krenko. Not that Goblin Gangland Style needs the help, but it's the principle of the thing (Although I mean, it's not really an issue, just one of those little things). And the fact that I would run 40 Krenkos and 20 mountains if the game allowed it (Even if he is a cheap Marrow-Gnawer knockoff) :33.


But, the reason there is only one Krenko is that they only ever put one copy of any legendary creature in any deck in DotP.




GM gets two Kaervek the Merciless . I was playing CW last night and Bribed one. That was fun.



Yeah, and one was in the Promo unlocks.
Go figure...

Flag djAMPnz November 13, 2012 11:40 AM PST

Nov 13, 2012 -- 9:10AM, Splattercat wrote:

Nov 13, 2012 -- 7:14AM, Hakeem928 wrote:

Nov 13, 2012 -- 5:53AM, djAMPnz wrote:

But, the reason there is only one Krenko is that they only ever put one copy of any legendary creature in any deck in DotP.




GM gets two Kaervek the Merciless . I was playing CW last night and Bribed one. That was fun.



Yeah, and one was in the Promo unlocks.
Go figure...




Woah, there is too. What the hell? That'd be the first time they've done that. Maybe whoever was in charge of the promo unlocks didn't realise there was this unwritten rule. Oh man, the OCD in me is all sad that the rule has been broken. I just assumed that he wasn't legen-wait-for-it-dary because there was two of him, and I don't run him in my deck. Oh well.

Flag thedevilwuster November 13, 2012 12:46 PM PST
legen-wait-for-it-dary, makes my brain hurt
Flag sixty4half November 13, 2012 7:50 PM PST
I can't believe you guys are still discussing this.  I would have assumed everyone's said their peace at this point.



On a side note, I really like RPJesus.

Another side note, so many face palm moments in this thread.
Flag MrWiggles49 November 14, 2012 4:39 PM PST
All I want is random deck matches and then I can be forever content. Is that really too much to ask?
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