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Flag RxPhantom November 6, 2012 10:31 PM PST
From RottenTomatoes.com:  wegotthiscovered.com/movies/disney-purch...

It's late and I'm tired, but could a move like this have an effect on Magic?  On one hand, Disney could let WotC go about its business undisturbed.  On the other, it could mean an almost rigidly family-friendly ethos, and a drive to make things super-profitable.  In the long run, this could result in the game getting dumbed down in the name of broader appeal.

Of course, the two previous scenarios are the two extremes.  There is a lot of space between them.
Flag Shadowchu November 6, 2012 10:54 PM PST
It's so cliche. Everybody thinks that once Disney buys something they make it family friendly. It's like the lol mickey mouse in star wars crap. There is literally no reason for Disney to do this. Disney has the family entertainment on lockdown so why buy a bunch of other companies and convert them to family entertainment? Disney is buying a ton of huge companies that make a lot of money so they can make more money. Has Marvel become a family friendly product since they've been acquired? 

Wizards already makes Kaijudo which is the kid's version of magic. I doubt much changes after Disney buys Hasbro. If Disney owns the a ton of property like say, Star Wars and Wizards which is allowed to create Star Wars related gaming content... 

Buying a successful company isn't about driving it into the ground. Disney may be evil but they own everything not because of bad business.  
Flag RPJesus November 6, 2012 10:57 PM PST
Go see Wreck-It Ralph. Then we can talk about how Disney "ruins everything." (I mean, you'll be wrong, but we can still talk about it )
Flag EyeHunter November 6, 2012 11:03 PM PST

Nov 6, 2012 -- 10:54PM, Shadowchu wrote:

It's so cliche. Everybody thinks that once Disney buys something they make it family friendly. 



There was a time when Disney did this. It was over before the Cold War was. People still think it.

Flag Shadowchu November 6, 2012 11:10 PM PST

Nov 6, 2012 -- 11:03PM, EyeHunter wrote:

Nov 6, 2012 -- 10:54PM, Shadowchu wrote:

It's so cliche. Everybody thinks that once Disney buys something they make it family friendly. 



There was a time when Disney did this. It was over before the Cold War was. People still think it.



Pretty silly. They think they're poking fun at Disney while they rake in retarded amounts of money. Good luck going a day without seeing something Disney owns. 

Flag Uncle_Mikey November 6, 2012 11:11 PM PST
Maybe if Disney buys Hasbro, WotC will actually release finished, working products!
Flag NeoMint November 6, 2012 11:21 PM PST

Nov 6, 2012 -- 11:11PM, Uncle_Mikey wrote:

Maybe if Disney buys Hasbro, WotC will actually release finished, working products!




This. I was hoping that this information was gonna be kept on the down-low. I hope if they buy it they shelve the NWO talk/philosophy. Yeah, go Disney. 

Flag Qmark November 6, 2012 11:27 PM PST
Face/Off was a Disney movie, guys.
Flag Renasce November 6, 2012 11:32 PM PST

Nov 6, 2012 -- 10:57PM, RPJesus wrote:

Go see Wreck-It Ralph. Then we can talk about how Disney "ruins everything." (I mean, you'll be wrong, but we can still talk about it )




This movie really speaks to me. It has a ton of video game references. References to video games. Which is something that I spend my time on. I play video games and this movie knows it!

It's just mind-boggling. It's like this movie was made for me. Because I play video games. And it references them. The movie, that is. References video games. Some of which I have played. They know me too well.

Flag Uncle_Mikey November 7, 2012 12:23 AM PST

Nov 6, 2012 -- 11:27PM, Qmark wrote:

Face/Off was a Disney movie, guys.



Still better than Gleemax.

Btw, glad to see you still sporting that title.  

Flag CarbonatedSoda November 7, 2012 3:04 AM PST
They could go either way. But Disney is usually rather good about not forcing family friendly stuff on successful businesses they acquire. Disney owns Marvel but Marvel sure has not been toned down any time soon.

It could definetly mean price increases and such, though.
Flag catowner November 7, 2012 3:08 AM PST
All I could see happening would be them changing the set release schedule to improve profits.
Flag MoiMoi November 7, 2012 3:52 AM PST
Humm... doesnt disney own an horror movie compagny and they dont advertize it much... You know going to see an horror movie with gore isnt good for the family image of Disney....

I could be wrong on this one, it's something I was told quite a while ago and I had never verified it, but the person that told that to me is rather reliable, so I'm just putting it out there, someone might know more about it.
Flag Tapsa November 7, 2012 7:31 AM PST

Nov 7, 2012 -- 3:52AM, MoiMoi wrote:

Humm... doesnt disney own an horror movie compagny and they dont advertize it much... You know going to see an horror movie with gore isnt good for the family image of Disney....

I could be wrong on this one, it's something I was told quite a while ago and I had never verified it, but the person that told that to me is rather reliable, so I'm just putting it out there, someone might know more about it.




Not sure about a horror movie company but they do own Touchstone Pictures which produced movies like Dark Water and the new Fright Night.

Flag Dragon_Nut November 7, 2012 8:53 AM PST

Nov 6, 2012 -- 11:32PM, Renasce wrote:

This movie really speaks to me. It has a ton of video game references. References to video games. Which is something that I spend my time on. I play video games and this movie knows it!

It's just mind-boggling. It's like this movie was made for me. Because I play video games. And it references them. The movie, that is. References video games. Some of which I have played. They know me too well.



Except it wasn't terrible. They had a chance to do what you're implying and just parade reference-after-reference but instead they decide to actually create a good movie! It is mind-boggling.

Flag Renasce November 7, 2012 9:09 AM PST

Nov 7, 2012 -- 8:53AM, Dragon_Nut wrote:

Except it wasn't terrible. They had a chance to do what you're implying and just parade reference-after-reference but instead they decide to actually create a good movie! It is mind-boggling.




It's still obvious pandering, though.

Flag Dragon_Nut November 7, 2012 9:20 AM PST

Nov 7, 2012 -- 9:09AM, Renasce wrote:

It's still obvious pandering, though.



Well yes, the advertising is obviously pandering. The movie itself doesn't really make a big deal about the references. Don't know if you've seen it, but there was never a point where they sacrificed plot so they could get in an extra reference.

Flag Antidromic November 7, 2012 9:20 AM PST
They aren't going to risk losing the core fan base, it's the regulars that drive the company, they would never risk that.
Flag Renasce November 7, 2012 9:28 AM PST

Nov 7, 2012 -- 9:20AM, Dragon_Nut wrote:

Well yes, the advertising is obviously pandering. The movie itself doesn't really make a big deal about the references. Don't know if you've seen it, but there was never a point where they sacrificed plot so they could get in an extra reference.




Husband wanted to, but it doesn't show at our local cinema, and we're both too scared to go into Dublin at night for fear of drunk Irish people.

Which is basically a tautology, but you know. 

Flag theatog November 7, 2012 10:49 AM PST
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MIRRODIN OR RAVNICA IN A MOVIE.

surprised no one has mentioned that.
Flag theatog November 7, 2012 10:50 AM PST
Think the question now is: who would be cast as JACE?
Flag Rush_Clasic November 7, 2012 10:52 AM PST
I'll take the Marvel movies that came after Disney purchased them over the ones that came before every day of the week. Did Disney have much to do with that success? I don't know. But they sure didn't hinder it.

Also, is that really Uncle_Mikey?

*waves at Uncle_Mikey* 
Flag warghoul November 7, 2012 10:54 AM PST

Nov 7, 2012 -- 10:50AM, theatog wrote:

Think the question now is: who would be cast as JACE?





Keanu Reeves.

Flag theatog November 7, 2012 10:57 AM PST
can anyone photoshop him in a jacehood? XD i m bad at that.
Flag theatog November 7, 2012 10:59 AM PST
i wonder if Christian Bale would make a good Jace as well?
Tom Hardy for garruk XD
would gerrard butler make a good garruk?

sorry i watch too much batman
Flag Antidromic November 7, 2012 12:07 PM PST

Nov 7, 2012 -- 10:54AM, warghoul wrote:

Nov 7, 2012 -- 10:50AM, theatog wrote:

Think the question now is: who would be cast as JACE?





Keanu Reeves.



You're probably right about that, bad acting and all

Flag EyeHunter November 7, 2012 12:10 PM PST

Nov 7, 2012 -- 10:52AM, Rush_Clasic wrote:

I'll take the Marvel movies that came after Disney purchased them over the ones that came before every day of the week. Did Disney have much to do with that success? I don't know.



No. The first Iron Man predates the Disney purchase, and was the best marvel movie until Avengers. The basic plan for Avengers was laid out after Iron Man's success. The change was Marvel having more control over the movies. See the 90's Fantastic Four for why this is a good thing.

Flag Rush_Clasic November 7, 2012 1:13 PM PST

Nov 7, 2012 -- 12:10PM, EyeHunter wrote:

Nov 7, 2012 -- 10:52AM, Rush_Clasic wrote:

I'll take the Marvel movies that came after Disney purchased them over the ones that came before every day of the week. Did Disney have much to do with that success? I don't know.



No. The first Iron Man predates the Disney purchase, and was the best marvel movie until Avengers. The basic plan for Avengers was laid out after Iron Man's success. The change was Marvel having more control over the movies. See the 90's Fantastic Four for why this is a good thing.


My point was more Disney not interfering, but ya, kudos to the status quo.

Flag javert November 7, 2012 7:46 PM PST
First of all, everything bad that Disney could do for Magic like a lower skill cap, diluted value on packs, less focus on game balance and cuts to the competitive scene has already happened. I don't see how they could make it even worse except for judging Magic too small of a business and simply shutting it down.

I don't have any problem if Disney actually lets WotC do their stuff alone ala Touchstone Pictures and arguably with less pressure on the quarterly report than Hasbro. That said, all the advocates should admit that whatever Disney directly puts their hands is set on a pretty low common denominator by default. Just see Adam Carter, Narnia chronicles or Tron: Legacy to put a few examples.

Nov 7, 2012 -- 3:04AM, CarbonatedSoda wrote:

They could go either way. But Disney is usually rather good about not forcing family friendly stuff on successful businesses they acquire. Disney owns Marvel but Marvel sure has not been toned down any time soon.




I don't know how recent the acquisition was but Marvel has been doing pretty bad these days. I was an X-Men fan back in the day but I have lost faith in the series as of late. The Avengers vs X-Men saga was godawful and there's a common feeling on disappointment on the entire company in the comic forums. Some Marvel diehard fans have been switching to DC as of late.

Flag felisdomesticus November 8, 2012 12:17 AM PST

Nov 7, 2012 -- 11:10PM, nopemx6 wrote:

Nov 7, 2012 -- 9:20AM, Antidromic wrote:

They aren't going to risk losing the core fan base, it's the regulars that drive the company, they would never risk that.




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I can't believe it, I came to this website to talk about magic and I find people talking about how much they hate jews.  This is unacceptable, and I'm reporting your post.

Flag Orc_Welfin November 8, 2012 12:51 AM PST
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Flag quadibloc November 8, 2012 3:53 AM PST
They won't tamper with Magic. But they might bring out a new edition of Kingdom Hearts with all the game mechanics taken from Magic...
Flag Shadowchu November 8, 2012 8:57 AM PST

Nov 8, 2012 -- 3:53AM, quadibloc wrote:

They won't tamper with Magic. But they might bring out a new edition of Kingdom Hearts with all the game mechanics taken from Magic...



I could see more marvel based stuff to be honest. Success of current comic book movies might mean there is a market for it again. 

Flag Shadowchu November 8, 2012 8:58 AM PST

Nov 8, 2012 -- 1:14AM, nopemx6 wrote:

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Walt was a famous anti-semite but maybe not one of the most appropriate topics for the forum.

Flag Sanctuarykitten November 8, 2012 10:06 AM PST

Nov 8, 2012 -- 1:14AM, nopemx6 wrote:

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tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Some...



In all honesty, if Magic got the boot, we'd all die on the inside. But if Disney bought out Hasbro, and kept MTG, DnD and whatever other games alive- We'd probably see very little change, aside from a Planeswalker Duck.

Flag bay_falconer November 8, 2012 1:43 PM PST
Doesn't Disney own Miramax, though?

Disney's biggest problem is that their movies tend to screw up history. That, and once anything's successful, they buy the rights to it, make an inferior remake, and make sure you don't get to see the original.
Flag Qmark November 9, 2012 1:33 AM PST
Disney definitely has the lawyer power to finally put an end to That Damed Reprint Policy.
Flag turnip_song November 9, 2012 8:24 AM PST

Nov 7, 2012 -- 12:10PM, EyeHunter wrote:

Nov 7, 2012 -- 10:52AM, Rush_Clasic wrote:

I'll take the Marvel movies that came after Disney purchased them over the ones that came before every day of the week. Did Disney have much to do with that success? I don't know.



No. The first Iron Man predates the Disney purchase, and was the best marvel movie until Avengers. The basic plan for Avengers was laid out after Iron Man's success. The change was Marvel having more control over the movies. See the 90's Fantastic Four for why this is a good thing.




Didn't that movie only exist so that they could protect the Fantastic Four trademark in a court of law? I don't think it was produced with quality in mind.

Flag PanteraCanes November 9, 2012 11:10 AM PST

Nov 9, 2012 -- 1:33AM, Qmark wrote:

Disney definitely has the lawyer power to finally put an end to That Damed Reprint Policy.




Oh happy days.  I was thinking this.  Very first set they print, vintage/legacy masters, with print runs large enough that they sell them at big box stores.  OK, I will wake up from the dream now.

Flag EyeHunter November 9, 2012 12:38 PM PST

Nov 9, 2012 -- 8:24AM, turnip_song wrote:

Nov 7, 2012 -- 12:10PM, EyeHunter wrote:

Nov 7, 2012 -- 10:52AM, Rush_Clasic wrote:

I'll take the Marvel movies that came after Disney purchased them over the ones that came before every day of the week. Did Disney have much to do with that success? I don't know.



No. The first Iron Man predates the Disney purchase, and was the best marvel movie until Avengers. The basic plan for Avengers was laid out after Iron Man's success. The change was Marvel having more control over the movies. See the 90's Fantastic Four for why this is a good thing.




Didn't that movie only exist so that they could protect the Fantastic Four trademark in a court of law? I don't think it was produced with quality in mind.



So that the movie studio could retain the rights it had held since the classic superman movies. Other movies get rushed to retain rights. X-men 3 could have waited until more of the cast was avilable. The first 2000's FF was rushed. The second has no such excuse. This Summers Spiderman only happened becuase they couldn't hold the rights long enough to have the actors back for spiderman 4. That was actually a good thing.

Flag Grimgobs November 9, 2012 7:35 PM PST
Is MTG and D&D such a big franchase that it would cause the mouse to buy Hasbro? I understand buying Marvel comics cause the movies are making serious buckroos and of course Lucasarts with it's expanded galaxy and movie rights but Hasbro and it's not like they are going to 6 more transformers movies. 

Don't think this is a good invest by Disney if they do it, they would be better off buying Square Enix (which whom they have partnered with in the past)
    

  

 
Flag Thrull_Champion November 9, 2012 11:29 PM PST

Nov 9, 2012 -- 7:35PM, Grimgobs wrote:

Is MTG and D&D such a big franchase that it would cause the mouse to buy Hasbro? I understand buying Marvel comics cause the movies are making serious buckroos and of course Lucasarts with it's expanded galaxy and movie rights but Hasbro and it's not like they are going to 6 more transformers movies. 

Don't think this is a good invest by Disney if they do it, they would be better off buying Square Enix (which whom they have partnered with in the past)
    

  

 





No it's because Hasbro has exclusive rights to make Star Wars toys. Even after the purchase from Disney.

Flag EyeHunter November 10, 2012 1:08 AM PST

Nov 9, 2012 -- 11:29PM, Thrull_Champion wrote:

..."window.parent.tinyMCE.get('post_content').onLoad.dispatch();" contenteditable="true" />No it's because Hasbro has exclusive rights to make Star Wars toys. Even after the purchase from Disney.



[citation needed]

Flag Renasce November 10, 2012 2:38 AM PST

Nov 10, 2012 -- 1:08AM, EyeHunter wrote:

Nov 9, 2012 -- 11:29PM, Thrull_Champion wrote:

..."window.parent.tinyMCE.get('post_content').onLoad.dispatch();" contenteditable="true" />No it's because Hasbro has exclusive rights to make Star Wars toys. Even after the purchase from Disney.



[citation needed]




www.toynews-online.biz/news/37567/Hasbro...

Flag RxPhantom November 10, 2012 8:23 AM PST

Nov 9, 2012 -- 7:35PM, Grimgobs wrote:

Is MTG and D&D such a big franchase that it would cause the mouse to buy Hasbro? I understand buying Marvel comics cause the movies are making serious buckroos and of course Lucasarts with it's expanded galaxy and movie rights but Hasbro and it's not like they are going to 6 more transformers movies. 

Don't think this is a good invest by Disney if they do it, they would be better off buying Square Enix (which whom they have partnered with in the past) 



If you read the article at the link in the first post of the thread, you would know that their primary reason is to make movies based on Hasbro's properties, and while it may not be first on the list, that would include Magic.  There could be a wide range of consequences for Magic, from the very positive to disastrous and all points in between.  The most realisic possibility is that they'll look at the numbers, say "Keep it up," and all will be right with the world.

Flag Thrull_Champion November 10, 2012 8:51 AM PST

Nov 10, 2012 -- 1:08AM, EyeHunter wrote:

Nov 9, 2012 -- 11:29PM, Thrull_Champion wrote:

..."window.parent.tinyMCE.get('post_content').onLoad.dispatch();" contenteditable="true" />No it's because Hasbro has exclusive rights to make Star Wars toys. Even after the purchase from Disney.



[citation needed]





I didn't realize I was on wikipedia....

Flag bay_falconer November 10, 2012 10:25 AM PST
I wouldn't worry so much. Remember, Miramax doesn't Bowdlerize. Kevin Smith movies are bad, but not because Miramax keeps Jason Mewes from dropping F-bombs.
Flag Grimgobs November 10, 2012 10:09 PM PST

Nov 10, 2012 -- 8:23AM, RxPhantom wrote:

Nov 9, 2012 -- 7:35PM, Grimgobs wrote:

Is MTG and D&D such a big franchase that it would cause the mouse to buy Hasbro? I understand buying Marvel comics cause the movies are making serious buckroos and of course Lucasarts with it's expanded galaxy and movie rights but Hasbro and it's not like they are going to 6 more transformers movies. 

Don't think this is a good invest by Disney if they do it, they would be better off buying Square Enix (which whom they have partnered with in the past) 



If you read the article at the link in the first post of the thread, you would know that their primary reason is to make movies based on Hasbro's properties, and while it may not be first on the list, that would include Magic.  There could be a wide range of consequences for Magic, from the very positive to disastrous and all points in between.  The most realisic possibility is that they'll look at the numbers, say "Keep it up," and all will be right with the world.





Meeehh not a fan of seeing MTG being made into a movie. Never been a fan of the Disney Pirates of caribbean movies with it's family friendly action scenes. D&D was made into a movie and we all know what a disaster that was. Monopoly made into a movie???? Did hollywood learn it's lesson from Battleship?? They could make a movie of M.A.S.K though that would be kind of cool.  Fantasy movies without Peter Jackson are not good and he is busy working on the Hobbit so he is booked for a good two to three years. Which btw the Hobbit is going to be sooooooooo awesome!!

Flag JoshuaFH November 10, 2012 11:20 PM PST
Personally, I would love a completely TERRIBAD movie featuring Jace and Sorin in the vein of Dude where's my car (Dude, Where's my spark?), or possibly like Harold and Kumar go to White Castle (Jace and Sorin go to Shandalar). Come on, you know you want it!

I just think it'd be fun to see such a lighthearted spin on our favorite characers.
Flag Grimgobs November 10, 2012 11:29 PM PST

Nov 10, 2012 -- 11:20PM, JoshuaFH wrote:

Personally, I would love even a completely TERRIBAD movie featuring Jace and Sorin in the vein of Dude where's my car (Dude, Where's my spark?), or possibly like Harold and Kumar go to White Castle (Jace and Sorin go to Shandalar). Come on, you know you want it!

I just think it'd be fun to see such a lighthearted spin on our favorite characers.




Yea, they should get Michael Bay to direct so we can have slow motion and explosions every two seconds. Then again if they got Sam Raimi and made it like Army of the Dead that would be awesome

Flag RxPhantom November 11, 2012 6:06 AM PST
An MTG movie would be complete garbage.  I really can't conceive of a way to make it any good. 
Flag LMTRK November 11, 2012 6:25 AM PST

Nov 11, 2012 -- 6:06AM, RxPhantom wrote:

An MTG movie would be complete garbage.  I really can't conceive of a way to make it any good.



Nov 10, 2012 -- 11:20PM, JoshuaFH wrote:

Personally, I would love a completely TERRIBAD movie featuring Jace and Sorin in the vein of Dude where's my car (Dude, Where's my spark)



Sounds good to me.

~ Tim   


Flag bay_falconer November 11, 2012 10:16 AM PST

Nov 10, 2012 -- 11:20PM, JoshuaFH wrote:

Personally, I would love a completely TERRIBAD movie featuring Jace and Sorin in the vein of Dude where's my car (Dude, Where's my spark?), or possibly like Harold and Kumar go to White Castle (Jace and Sorin go to Shandalar). Come on, you know you want it!

I just think it'd be fun to see such a lighthearted spin on our favorite characers.




Sounds more like a Mirran thing.

Flag ORC_Cerberus November 11, 2012 8:25 PM PST
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Flag KeeperofManyNames November 12, 2012 8:39 AM PST

Nov 11, 2012 -- 8:25PM, ORC_Cerberus wrote:

Greetings,

I have removed content from this thread. Please bare in mind that Hate Speech and Disccusion of Moderation is against the Code of Conduct

Please keep the conversation civil and above all else, fun.

Thanks,  


What if "Disccusion" of Moderation is fun? Is this like the three laws of robotics--A Robot Will Keep Conversation Civil Unless It Interferes With The First Law? Is there an ORC_SusanCalvin?

Flag bay_falconer November 12, 2012 9:30 AM PST
Isn't there a Zeroth Law, though? A robot can break the other laws if not doing so endangers humanity.
Flag KeeperofManyNames November 12, 2012 11:26 AM PST
Well played, Bay Falconer...
Flag desolation_masticore November 28, 2012 4:24 AM PST

Nov 7, 2012 -- 10:50AM, theatog wrote:

Think the question now is: who would be cast as JACE?



Johnny Depp, they all ready have him for Pirates of the Caribbean.

Flag tonyto3690 November 28, 2012 11:34 PM PST

Nov 7, 2012 -- 12:23AM, Uncle_Mikey wrote:

Nov 6, 2012 -- 11:27PM, Qmark wrote:

Face/Off was a Disney movie, guys.



Still better than Gleemax.



Hahahahahahahahhahaha

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