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8 months ago  ::  Nov 07, 2012 - 10:57PM #41
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Nov 7, 2012 -- 10:55PM, Shadowchu wrote:

It's unfathomable how stupid you are. 

Yes, there may be merit in splashing black but there is also merit in figuring out if UR is a fine deck in it's own right.  



It's not about how strong u/r is, it's about how strong it is relative to grixis.

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EDIT2:  Currently 4-0 in my first four games with this.  My opponents have been very angry.  I fought off a Wurmcoil from Grixis for six turns before I found my second Dispatch.  Jeez, I can do a lot of damage.

EDIT3: Streak broken.  Lost to an unexpected Overrun.    Cracking a Shrine for 10 wasn't enough.   



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8 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2012 - 4:39AM #42
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Nov 7, 2012 -- 10:57PM, catowner wrote:

Nov 7, 2012 -- 10:55PM, Shadowchu wrote:

It's unfathomable how stupid you are. 

Yes, there may be merit in splashing black but there is also merit in figuring out if UR is a fine deck in it's own right.  



It's not about how strong u/r is, it's about how strong it is relative to grixis.



Or U/W/R. 

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8 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2012 - 7:28AM #43
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Date Joined: Apr 25, 2008
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I see what's going on here. I done been trolled.

You guys are continually missing the point.

I made the thread to get all the people posting UR decklists into one spot. The last thing I want is people talking about Grixis or America in here and running those guys back out into their own threads. Please, do it for the children. 


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8 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2012 - 10:14AM #44
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I only mentioned spashing white because Thundermaw Hellkite isn't ideal for just plain U/R.  He's geared towards a creature-based game, like mono-red, W/R or U/W/R, whether it be aggro or mid-range.  He's not a control deck card IMO. 
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8 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2012 - 1:37PM #45
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In an effort to get the thread back on topic, an izzet control deck took a top 8 at states a couple weeks ago in connecticut (10/26/12). Figured it might be worth posting?



Creatures: 8

1 Thundermaw Hellkite
3 Snapcaster Mage
2 Augur of Bolas
1 Lone Revenant
Niv-mizzet, Dracogenius

Instant: 18

2 Magmaquake
4 Izzet Charm
1 Thoughtflare
2 Syncopate
2 Cyclonic Rift
3 Searing Spear
4 Think Twice

Sorcery: 7
1 Devil's Play
3 Mizzium Mortars
3 Pillar of flame

Planeswalkers: 3
3 Jace, Architect of thought

land: 24        

6 island
6 mountain
2 desolate lighthouse
4 sulfur falls
4 steam vents
2 izzet guildgate


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8 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2012 - 1:52PM #46
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I do like a hexproof 4/4 that draws cards...  he's just not overpowered in the meta. Only rub. Let me know if anyone tests it.


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8 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2012 - 2:35PM #47
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IMO this deck is extremely lacking. I have no idea how it ever made it to the top 8.  My guess would be random luck. In response about hellkite not being for this deck; your goal is not to win as fast as posable and you are correct there. You either hold the dragon until you can keep open mana for a counter or you have enough back up in your hand to support a threat hitting the board ( rift, burn) and play him. With home out you have in essence given your opponent 3 more turns, bc of haste, to deal with him. If your playing a midrange deck , which seems to be popular right now, your life total should not be threatened buy turn 5 anyways. If you do happen to be playing a faster deck like WW or zombies just wait till you stabilize have extra mana and that good card advantage. Then slap hellkite down and protect the board for the win.
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8 months ago  ::  Nov 09, 2012 - 8:13AM #48
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Nov 8, 2012 -- 2:35PM, THEE_CHAD wrote:

IMO this deck is extremely lacking. I have no idea how it ever made it to the top 8. My guess would be random luck.




Seriously? An izzet control made it to top 8, and all you can say about it is "must have been luck"?

Maybe you discuss what you don't like about the placing izzet decklist in the izzet decklist thread? A thought. It's okay for you to not like it, but you should say why. In what way do you think it's lacking?

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8 months ago  ::  Nov 09, 2012 - 10:34AM #49
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more scroll thief decks, plz!!1!

this is where i want to be if i'm UR

also, UR control should play draw go..... and then splash for at least sphinx's revelation.... but draw-go izzet is the way to go with control

otherwise, tempo.  snapcaster plus burn is always awesome.  i think its possible.... however barely.... to build UR tempo much like UWR midrange.  it might not be as good, though... play scroll theif?     
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8 months ago  ::  Nov 09, 2012 - 10:48AM #50
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Can't tell if you're trolling me here. Did a cat get ahold of your account?


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