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7 months ago ::
Nov 05, 2012 - 7:34AM
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There's an overabundance of UR threads in Standard Deck Help. Post your decklist here and ask questions here even if your list has a whole 6 cards different. Here's my current working list, no sideboard yet since I'm still tuning. 4 x Guttersnipe  4 x Snapcaster Mage  4 x Pillar of Flame  3 x Searing Spear  4 x Think Twice  3 x Izzet Charm  3 x Mizzium Mortars  2 x Counterflux  2 x Annihilating Fire  2 x Thoughtflare  3 x Syncopate  1 x Devil's Play  1 x Epic Experiment  1 x Chandra, the Firebrand  4 x Sulfur Falls  4 x Steam Vents  8 x Mountain  6 x Island  1 x Desolate Lighthouse  We can talk about Delver of Secrets but without a topdeck manipulation mechanic in the vein of Ponder, Preordain, Brainstorm, or anything with Scry you probably shouldn't be playing him.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 05, 2012 - 7:44AM
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most izzet lists are probably better off playing with black or white
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7 months ago ::
Nov 05, 2012 - 7:46AM
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most izzet lists are probably better off playing with black or white
You can. But the decks start to play differently.
Way to go off topic though.
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Designer of Top 8 States finishing MBC decks in 2011, 2010, and 2009
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"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance." - Laurence J. Peter "It is the province of knowledge to speak, and it is the privilege of wisdom to listen.” - Oliver Wendell Holmes
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7 months ago ::
Nov 05, 2012 - 8:20AM
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7 months ago ::
Nov 05, 2012 - 8:28AM
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Is Snapcaster missing from your deck for budget reasons? Or? I mean Tamiyo isn't exactly budget either.
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Designer of Top 8 States finishing MBC decks in 2011, 2010, and 2009
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"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance." - Laurence J. Peter "It is the province of knowledge to speak, and it is the privilege of wisdom to listen.” - Oliver Wendell Holmes
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7 months ago ::
Nov 05, 2012 - 10:53AM
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Could you go over some of your card choices, niche? Epic experiment, chandra, and devil's play I'm not sure I understand here, and annihilating flame + counterflux seem questionable. My list: SniperNoSniping.dec Creatures: 12 4 Goblin Electromancer  4 Guttersnipe 4 Delver of secrets  Instants: 21 4 think twice  4 desperate ravings  1 Syncopate 2 Dissipate  1 izzet charm  3 cyclonic rift  4 searing spear  2 cackling counterpart  Sorceries: 7 3 mizzium mortars  4 pillar of flame  Lands: 20 3 Sulfur Falls 2 Steam Vents 1 desolate lighthouse  7 Mountain 7 island No snappys due to low budget. So far having okay success flipping delver due to a total of 28 instants and sorceries. Considering making room for a couple extra counters somehow, but uncertain what to take out for it. Cackling counterpart is amazing tech. Works great. I can't recall ever losing a game that involved me casting it on a guttersnipe at the end of an opponent's turn.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 05, 2012 - 10:55AM
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To start, I havent played MTG for about 2 years now, since zendikar block. Just getting back into it and want to play something a little different from the Aggro decks Ive played in the past. I liked some of the cards that came across out of the starter decks so now Im trying to make an Izzet control/burn heavy deck. (13) x Creatures: 4 x Vexing Devil  4 x Goblin Electromancer 3 x Guttersnipe 1 x Hypersonic Dragon  1 x Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius  (27) x Spells: 4 x Searing Spear 4 x Pillar of Flame 3 x Mizzium Mortars 3 x Thunderous Wrath  4 x Syncopate 3 x Izzet Charm 3 x Dissipate 2 x Reverberate  1 x Epic Experiment Lands: 4x Izzet Guildgate X x Mountains X x Islands I dont have the money to drop into good lands atm, but they will come eventually. honestly I think I can drop the goblin electromancer. Since my specified costs are so prevalent anyway it really only supports 3 or 4 cards to its potential. But since I dont have the money for snap casters Im not sure what I should change it out for.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 05, 2012 - 1:39PM
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I think you're severely underestimating the electromancer. In your deck, he makes cheaper:
searing spear
mizzium mortars (Including the overload)
syncopate (!!!)
thunderous wrath (if you fail to miricle it out for some reason)
dissipate
epic experiment
that's 18 cards in your deck, many of which become amazing.
If you want to keep a low land count like you have, I would take out niv-mizzet and the hypersonic dragon for some think twice. also, vexing devil should only be here if you're going for straight burn.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 05, 2012 - 1:53PM
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Could you go over some of your card choices, niche? Epic experiment, chandra, and devil's play I'm not sure I understand here, and annihilating flame + counterflux seem questionable.
Counterflux is basically advance meta tech. Win all counter wars. Win.
Annihilating fire is a little bit of a stretch but it gives extra zombies game. Don't like volley without more dudes and I have room for more burn.
Epic Experiment is a draw + play card... its very cool here. X= 7 usually rips into a couple burn spells, couple lands, a thoughtflare, and either an izzet charm/syncopate. So you face someone twice and refill your hand.
Chandra is great. Poke, control other PWs.... control decks have to work to deal with her... the inferno is strong... and being able to copy a thoughtflare, experiment, or devil's play is huge. Plus copying a pillar sometimes is enough to win a game also. High upside, low downside.
Cackling counterpart is amazing tech. Works great. I can't recall ever losing a game that involved me casting it on a guttersnipe at the end of an opponent's turn.
My smile is only like cheshire cat big right now after you pointed out some of my choices as questionable. This guy. Rly.
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Designer of Top 8 States finishing MBC decks in 2011, 2010, and 2009
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"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance." - Laurence J. Peter "It is the province of knowledge to speak, and it is the privilege of wisdom to listen.” - Oliver Wendell Holmes
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7 months ago ::
Nov 05, 2012 - 2:52PM
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Niche, you're running 21 instants/sorceries that don't have x in their cost or include the text "counter target spell." On average, experiment for 7 will hit 2-3 of them, 2 more often than 3. You can still run it if you want, but be realistic. 
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EDIT: I just remembered. The Skirges might have been 2x Whipflare and 1x something else, probably War and Peace.
EDIT2: Currently 4-0 in my first four games with this. My opponents have been very angry. I fought off a Wurmcoil from Grixis for six turns before I found my second Dispatch. Jeez, I can do a lot of damage.
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