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7 months ago  ::  Nov 05, 2012 - 4:28AM #1
Baloden
Date Joined: Jun 14, 2006
Posts: 156

This is my black green Commander deck. What do you think of it? What can be improved?

Commander
1 x Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord


1 x Deadbridge Goliath
1 x Elvish Visionary
1 x Golgari Grave-Troll
1 x Ivy Elemental
1 x Krakilin
1 x Lhurgoyf
1 x Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 x Somberwald Sage
1 x Soul of the Harvest
1 x Wall of Roots
1 x Wolfir Avenger
1 x Abyssal Gatekeeper
1 x Corpse Harvester
1 x Desecration Demon
1 x Helldozer
1 x Mortivore
1 x Nightmare
1 x Phyrexian Plaguelord
1 x Quagmire Druid
1 x Shriekmaw
1 x Stinkweed Imp
1 x Thoughtpicker Witch
1 x Unliving Psychopath
1 x Woebearer
1 x Deathrite Shaman
1 x Golgari Guildmage
1 x Golgari Rotwurm
1 x Grave-Shell Scarab
1 x Korozda Guildmage
1 x Savra, Queen of the Golgari
1 x Sisters of Stone Death
1 x Vulturous Zombie
1 x Fecundity
1 x Sylvok Explorer
1 x Caustic Tar
1 x Fevered Convulsions
1 x Grave Betrayal
1 x Golgari Germination
1 x Kodama's Reach
1 x Sprouting Vines
1 x Untamed Wilds
1 x Worldly Tutor
1 x Grave Exchange
1 x Vigor Mortis
1 x Abrupt Decay
1 x Grisly Salvage
1 x Putrefy
1 x Rites of Reaping
1 x Treasured Find
1 x Mask of Avacyn
1 x Neurok Stealthsuit
1 x Darksteel Ingot
1 x Darksteel Pendant
1 x Gilded Lotus
1 x Golgari Signet
1 x Library of Leng
1 x Sol Grail
1 x Spellbook
1 x Ur-Golem's Eye
1 x Ancient Ziggurat
1 x Barren Moor
1 x Blasted Landscape
1 x Golgari Guildgate
1 x Golgari Rot Farm
1 x Polluted Mire
1 x Reliquary Tower
1 x Slippery Karst
1 x Spawning Pool
1 x Svogthos, the Restless Tomb
1 x Tranquil Thicket
1 x Unholy Grotto
1 x Vivid Grove
11 x Forest
10 x Swamp
1 x Liliana of the Dark Realms
1 x Druid's Familiar
1 x Fungal Sprouting
1 x Verdant Force
1 x Doubling Season
1 x Scatter the Seeds



   
   
   
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 05, 2012 - 6:14AM #2
RxPhantom
Date Joined: Jun 29, 2011
Posts: 1,728
First, I'd recommend organizing this thing into sections so it's easier to process.  I didn't really look through the list for this reason, but if you don't have one, throw in a Witchbane Orb for the inevitable graveyard hate that Jarad will surely bring.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 05, 2012 - 6:39AM #3
re4leonkennedy
Date Joined: Nov 1, 2009
Posts: 1,161
The first thing I look for to improve edh decks is seeing if there are any better versions of cards being used. For example Cultivate instead of untamed wilds. Other examples I found are ur-golems eye could be Everflowing Chalice or Thran Dynamo , sol grail would be better off as Golgari Keyrune or other mana producing artifacts. Ivy element could be Primordial Hydra - one less counter to begin with but doubles every turn.

Another thing I look for are cards that don't seem that great for the deck. Nightmare can be great for edh but with only 10 swamps it probably won't be very impressive for its mana cost. Rites of Reaping doesn't seem like a good card for a 6 mana sorcery. You should be able to find something better without too much trouble. Caustic Tar doesn't seem like the best way to make an opponent lose life. If you want an enchantment that does that you could try Baneful Omen . Makes all opponents lose life instead of one, can do more( or less than 3 damage), doesn't require you to tap a land, and can work with stuff that manipulates the top card of your library (unholy grotto, worldly tutor). Or many other black cards instead. Fevered convulsions doesn't seem that great at killing stuff. Things are usually pretty big in edh and if you're using it to kill your own creatures you're much better off with Skullclamp . Ancient ziggurat should probably be replaced. Not being able to provide mana for non creature spells or abilities is a pretty big drawback and you shouldn't need too much mana fixing in a 2 colored deck.

The third thing I try to do is name some cards that I think would be good for the deck. Drana, Kalastra Bloodchief would be one. It's an edh staple since it can repeatedly kill creatures and attack for a lot. Could also be a good target for Jarad's ability. Sewer Nemesis should be a pretty big creature in your deck. Harvester of Souls - 6/6 deathtouch that draws you cards whenever a nontoken creature dies seems great for this deck. Grave Pact . Your deck is built around sacrificing creatures. Grim Flowering could be an interesting card to try here. Ghoultree - a huge creature that shouldn't cost much mana to cast in your deck. And finally Lord of Extinction which should be the biggest 5 mana creature ever.

You also need to replace neurok stealthsuit since it has a blue activated ability. Lightning Greaves or Swiftfoot Boots do the same thing while giving a creature haste.      


    
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 05, 2012 - 6:43AM #4
re4leonkennedy
Date Joined: Nov 1, 2009
Posts: 1,161
I forgot to mention Mimic Vat . Great card in general. and you can sacrifice the token to Jarad.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 05, 2012 - 6:47AM #5
dangerousbeans
Date Joined: Feb 15, 2012
Posts: 269
You can't have Neurok Stealthsuit in this deck.  It's blue.
Edit: Too slow.   re4leonkennedy beat me to the punch.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 06, 2012 - 6:06AM #6
Baloden
Date Joined: Jun 14, 2006
Posts: 156

This is my updated deck. What do you think of it? What should be improved about it?

Creatures 
1 x Elvish Visionary
1 x Golgari Grave-Troll
1 x Ivy Elemental
1 x Krakilin
1 x Lhurgoyf
1 x Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 x Somberwald Sage
1 x Soul of the Harvest
1 x Wall of Roots
1 x Wolfir Avenger
1 x Abyssal Gatekeeper
1 x Corpse Harvester
1 x Desecration Demon
1 x Helldozer
1 x Mortivore
1 x Phyrexian Plaguelord
1 x Quagmire Druid
1 x Unliving Psychopath
1 x Woebearer
1 x Deathrite Shaman
1 x Golgari Guildmage
1 x Golgari Rotwurm
1 x Grave-Shell Scarab
1 x Korozda Guildmage
1 x Savra, Queen of the Golgari
1 x Sisters of Stone Death
1 x Vulturous Zombie
1 x Sylvok Explorer
1 x Druid's Familiar
1 x Verdant Force
1 x Desecration Elemental
1 x Disciple of Tevesh Szat
1 x Phyrexian Ghoul
1 x Plague Dogs
1 x Sanguine Praetor


Planeswalker
1 x Liliana of the Dark Realms


Artifacts
1 x Mask of Avacyn
1 x Darksteel Ingot
1 x Darksteel Pendant
1 x Gilded Lotus
1 x Golgari Signet
1 x Library of Leng
1 x Sol Grail
1 x Spellbook
1 x Ur-Golem's Eye


Enchantments
1 x Fecundity
1 x Fevered Convulsions
1 x Grave Betrayal
1 x Golgari Germination
1 x Doubling Season
1 x Perilous Forays
1 x Leyline of the Void


Other Spells
1 x Kodama's Reach
1 x Sprouting Vines
1 x Worldly Tutor
1 x Grave Exchange
1 x Vigor Mortis
1 x Abrupt Decay
1 x Grisly Salvage
1 x Putrefy
1 x Treasured Find
1 x Fungal Sprouting
1 x Scatter the Seeds
1 x Ranger's Path
1 x Sylvan Scrying


Lands
1 x Barren Moor
1 x Blasted Landscape
1 x Golgari Guildgate
1 x Golgari Rot Farm
1 x Polluted Mire
1 x Reliquary Tower
1 x Slippery Karst
1 x Spawning Pool
1 x Svogthos, the Restless Tomb
1 x Tranquil Thicket
1 x Unholy Grotto
1 x Vivid Grove
1 x Transguild Promenade
11 x Forest
10 x Swamp


Commander
1 x Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
 


   
   
   
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 06, 2012 - 10:29AM #7
Portalis
Date Joined: May 31, 2005
Posts: 1,135
Brawn and Filth are great cards to throw in the yard. throw in Evil Presence or Contaminated Ground or Blanket of Night will work.  If you can get one Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth is even better
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 06, 2012 - 10:44AM #8
MadAdmiral
Date Joined: Oct 26, 2011
Posts: 2,133
Cards I don't like in the list:

Darksteel Pendant.  It just doesn't seem to do anything...
Wolfir Avenger.  Just isn't very impressive.
Sylvok Explorer.  Very fragile mana ramp.  Plus, you could just play something that ramps your colors...
Druid's Familiar.  It's just very underwhelming.
Sol Grail.  Vessel of Endless Rest is better.
Ur-Golem's Eye.  Sol Ring is better.
Abrupt Decay.  Doesn't kill all that much in the format.  Try out Maelstrom Pulse instead.

A couple of absolute requirements for Jarad is missing:  Crucible of Worlds and Life from the Loam .  I'm pretty sure you want to be leaving Jarad in the yard quite a bit, so having the ability to get back your lands makes it a lot easier to swallow the cost of returning him to play.

If you add Crucible/Loam, I'd also add more specialty lands.  Strip Mine , Tectonic Edge , Ghost Quarter , Dust Bowl and Wasteland are all extremely good inclusions regardless of the deck.  Grim Backwoods can be another sac outlet, plus a draw spell.

I'm also pretty sure you want Exploration as well.  It makes it easier to get back into the game if you're sacrificing your lands to bring back Jarad.

Seedborn Muse is another staple that I would highly recommend.  I don't think it's as insane in your deck as many others, but it's still really good.

Harvester of Souls would also be bonkers.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 06, 2012 - 5:48PM #9
Singe
Date Joined: Jan 13, 2006
Posts: 1,010
Victimize sac a creature to revive two creatures from your graveyard. Creeping Renaissance lets you return all permanents of one type from your graveyard back to your hand and flashback for another shot.
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 06, 2012 - 6:10PM #10
RxPhantom
Date Joined: Jun 29, 2011
Posts: 1,728
I still think you need Witchbane Orb .  I can't think of anything that will protect your graveyard, and that seems kind of important to Jarad.
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