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7 months ago ::
Nov 05, 2012 - 12:17PM
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All of the damage will end up on one Giant or the other. If I attack with three 3/3s and you block one of them with Giant A, when it comes time to apply their replacement effects, you have two choices.
If you apply Giant B first (the nonblocking one), all the damage would be dealt to B, then Giant A steps in and takes all the damage, so Giant A is dealt all the damage.
If you apply Giant A first (the blocking one), then all the other damage would be dealt to A, then Giant B steps in and takes all the damage, so Giant B takes all the damage.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 05, 2012 - 12:24PM
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Just to close this issue for good (and please, correct me if I'm wrong):
Two 4/4s are attacking you.
In a doomed attempt to save both giants, you block a 4/4 with each. Giant 1 blocks 4/4 A and Giant 2 blocks 4/4 B.
Giant 1 wants to redirect the damage from 4/4 B.
Giant 2 wants to redirect the damage from 4/4 A.
If Giant 1's effect is applied first, Giant 2 would later want to redirect 8 damage to itself.
If Giant 2's effect is applied first, Giant 1 would later want to redirect 8 damage to itself.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 05, 2012 - 12:28PM
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The key is to realize that the same "event" might be atomic in one case and not in another. In this example, one of the giants is distinguishing between two damage "events" while the other sees it as one block of indivisible damage.
yes, that's what has thrown me off for a while until I realized that
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7 months ago ::
Nov 05, 2012 - 12:34PM
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Just to close this issue for good (and please, correct me if I'm wrong):
Two 4/4s are attacking you.
In a doomed attempt to save both giants, you block a 4/4 with each. Giant 1 blocks 4/4 A and Giant 2 blocks 4/4 B.
Giant 1 wants to redirect the damage from 4/4 B.
Giant 2 wants to redirect the damage from 4/4 A.
If Giant 1's effect is applied first, Giant 2 would later want to redirect 8 damage to itself.
If Giant 2's effect is applied first, Giant 1 would later want to redirect 8 damage to itself.
Yes, it's pretty much the same as the Tremor example. No matter what you do, one Giant will end up with all the damage.
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7 months ago ::
Nov 05, 2012 - 4:22PM
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Thanks Nate. Using "and/or" instead of "or" would have avoided the ambiguity/confusion. Maybe you can suggest that change to the keepers of the Oracle.
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