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Nov 12, 2012 -- 6:58AM, Jman22 wrote:

I was just pointing out I found a quack quack that describes you perfectly, quack quack quack quack quack

Also, you said you couldn't cast Krenko in a UB deck... A red card, in a blue-black deck. And you still obviously are missing the entire point of the thread.

If I said UB I meant UR, and I'm sure you could've deduced that in the context of this thread.

Anyways, I have yet to drop a game with my standard UG Defenders (not even using Galvanic Alchemist ) in my local playgroups, but that doesn't mean anything other than my opponents aren't playing answers to it. Point is, (relatively) anything can win FNM if nothing answers it. Goblins pre-rotation wasn't a bad budget deck (easily one of the most consistently-performing decks for how inexpensive the singles are/were) and I saw at least one decklist being run at each FNM I attended, pre-rotation.

This thread cares about post-rotation, however. And I don't think there remains a lot to be said in that regard. The best metric for determining how good Krenko is in a given UR deck is to test it yourself, or find someone else to do it.

Nov 13, 2012 -- 10:13PM, Weisse wrote:

If I said UB I meant UR, and I'm sure you could've deduced that in the context of this thread.

Anyways, I have yet to drop a game with my standard UG Defenders (not even using Galvanic Alchemist ) in my local playgroups, but that doesn't mean anything other than my opponents aren't playing answers to it. Point is, (relatively) anything can win FNM if nothing answers it. Goblins pre-rotation wasn't a bad budget deck (easily one of the most consistently-performing decks for how inexpensive the singles are/were) and I saw at least one decklist being run at each FNM I attended, pre-rotation.

This thread cares about post-rotation, however. And I don't think there remains a lot to be said in that regard. The best metric for determining how good Krenko is in a given UR deck is to test it yourself, or find someone else to do it.

I could have, and I did, but I still wanted to point it out.

Other than that, agreed. Obviously random garbage can win FNMs, and obviously control decks are going to win if nobody plays Cavern of Souls.

I think in the grindy Thragtusk world we currently live in, a card like Krenko has a lot of room to grow, but people dismiss things too easily beacuse "he can be answered."
We don't live in the Vapor Snag era anymore - our creatures can not do stuff for a turn and it not be the end of the world. Nobody has said that yet I don't think, but I wanted to put that out there before someone did. 

Nov 14, 2012 -- 2:09AM, mepersoner wrote:

We could play this game, but I'll just say if you're winning for a month straight and you're playing a pool of around a hundred people, it's probably at least partly the deck.

That said.  I really think Krenko should be held off on until Gatecrash at least.  Hopefully the Gruul/Boros have something offer us Goblin players. 

I'm not really interested in playing that game, I just said it in Catowner's memory, may he troll forever.