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8 months ago  ::  Oct 16, 2012 - 2:51PM #1
Kindred_Dragon
Date Joined: Jan 22, 2011
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A juge toll me that that lifeloss & damage is now the same thing now. Is ths true?if so where can i find the rule change.
if i use jarad,golgari lich lord 2 make some 1 loss life can thay use lifel link or cards that say if u take damage gain  life in response
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 16, 2012 - 2:53PM #2
Enigma256
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that is true
that was always true (as far as I know)
misread the question, it's not true

damage generally causes lifeloss, but lifeloss is not damage
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 16, 2012 - 2:54PM #3
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It is not. Damage causes a loss of life, but loss of life does not count as damage.
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 16, 2012 - 2:56PM #4
ikegami
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They're not the same. Not even close. Most of the time, damage doesn't even result in life loss. Damage can
  • cause damage to be marked on a creature
  • cause a player to lose life
  • cause loyalty counters to be removed from a planeswalker
  • cause -1/-1 counters to be added to a creature
  • cause poison counters to be given to a player
  • cause life to be gained (lifelink)
  • ...

And that's not even counter replacement effects.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 16, 2012 - 2:57PM #5
Edriss
Date Joined: Jun 22, 2011
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No, this is wrong.

Normally, damage dealt to a player by a source without infect causes that player to lose that much life. But a player can also lose life without beeing dealt damage (see Blood Tithe , for example)
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 16, 2012 - 3:30PM #6
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Oct 16, 2012 -- 2:51PM, Kindred_Dragon wrote:

A judge told me that that lifeloss and damage are now the same thing.


the "judge" is mistaken

Oct 16, 2012 -- 2:51PM, Kindred_Dragon wrote:

Is ths true?


no

Oct 16, 2012 -- 2:51PM, Kindred_Dragon wrote:

if so where can i find the rule change.


you can't because it isn't true

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