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8 months ago ::
Oct 16, 2012 - 2:51PM
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A juge toll me that that lifeloss & damage is now the same thing now. Is ths true?if so where can i find the rule change. if i use jarad,golgari lich lord 2 make some 1 loss life can thay use lifel link or cards that say if u take damage gain life in response
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8 months ago ::
Oct 16, 2012 - 2:53PM
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Jul 28, 2010
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that is truethat was always true (as far as I know)misread the question, it's not true  damage generally causes lifeloss, but lifeloss is not damage
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8 months ago ::
Oct 16, 2012 - 2:54PM
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- Niftily helpful
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It is not. Damage causes a loss of life, but loss of life does not count as damage.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 16, 2012 - 2:56PM
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Nov 16, 2007
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They're not the same. Not even close. Most of the time, damage doesn't even result in life loss. Damage can
- cause damage to be marked on a creature
- cause a player to lose life
- cause loyalty counters to be removed from a planeswalker
- cause -1/-1 counters to be added to a creature
- cause poison counters to be given to a player
- cause life to be gained (lifelink)
- ...
And that's not even counter replacement effects.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 16, 2012 - 2:57PM
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Jun 22, 2011
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No, this is wrong. Normally, damage dealt to a player by a source without infect causes that player to lose that much life. But a player can also lose life without beeing dealt damage (see Blood Tithe , for example)
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8 months ago ::
Oct 16, 2012 - 3:30PM
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Date Joined:
Oct 29, 2007
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A judge told me that that lifeloss and damage are now the same thing.
the "judge" is mistaken
Is ths true?
no
if so where can i find the rule change.
you can't because it isn't true
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