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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 7:32PM
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So I've been working on a Black/Red vmapire deck with a good amount of burn and destory creature in it, however I've been having a lot of problems lately with cotnrol decks ( I havne't fought any but I know I will). With supreme verdicts and an insane amount of counter-spell and destroy all creatures I know that I need to figure out some way of beating it.
I've seen American control run usually with only about 6 creatures and a couple Jace's so I'm not so worried about that (Might just throw in some dreadbore's). But with the other deck whiping out all creatures what should I do to keep my swing going? Should I just side-board a ton of burn?
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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 7:45PM
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As a (I like to think) decent magic player who speaks English, reading your post is about the same as slamming my head into my desk repeatedly with boomboxes taped to my head playing "the best of fingernails on a chalkboard" on an infinite loop.
1000th post November 26, 2010. Where Islands gets his decks: Spoiler:
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It was revealed to me in a dream. All the cards were in my dream except for three slots which I plugged in as Vault Skirge.
FULL DISCLOSURE: The dream was post AVR so there was a copy of Slayer's Stronghold. I decided to keep it pre AVR in my post here.
EDIT: I just remembered. The Skirges might have been 2x Whipflare and 1x something else, probably War and Peace.
EDIT2: Currently 4-0 in my first four games with this. My opponents have been very angry. I fought off a Wurmcoil from Grixis for six turns before I found my second Dispatch. Jeez, I can do a lot of damage.
EDIT3: Streak broken. Lost to an unexpected Overrun.  Cracking a Shrine for 10 wasn't enough.
How Kedi tests his decks: Spoiler:
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also, I've been playtesting this deck in my sleep today
that kinda freaked me out
Sleeping on Halloween: Spoiler:
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Halloween is a conspiracy by crossdressers and furries.
 Thanks to Kipz for the sig. Make a contract with me to become a magical girl!
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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 7:51PM
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Forgive me, I wrote that on my phone; I am home now. Let me rephrase. I am running a red and black vampire deck with a heavy-burn spell count. It relies on vampires pumping vampires and a good amoutn of flying tokens being spit out using the lord of lineage. Now the issue I am hitting with control decks (mainly American-control) is the amount of counter spell and board-wipes they are packing. From Terminuses, Supreme verdicts, and bonfire of the damned it's obvious that this deck is made for killing aggro decks.
What I want to know is how I can counter all the board-wipe with the aggro deck I am runnin; IE black and red spells. Or do you think it's all about playing smart? Just keeping one or two creatures out to prick down their health which will force them to destroy only a couple creatures?
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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 7:57PM
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I suggest not running b/r vampires.
1000th post November 26, 2010. Where Islands gets his decks: Spoiler:
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It was revealed to me in a dream. All the cards were in my dream except for three slots which I plugged in as Vault Skirge.
FULL DISCLOSURE: The dream was post AVR so there was a copy of Slayer's Stronghold. I decided to keep it pre AVR in my post here.
EDIT: I just remembered. The Skirges might have been 2x Whipflare and 1x something else, probably War and Peace.
EDIT2: Currently 4-0 in my first four games with this. My opponents have been very angry. I fought off a Wurmcoil from Grixis for six turns before I found my second Dispatch. Jeez, I can do a lot of damage.
EDIT3: Streak broken. Lost to an unexpected Overrun. Cracking a Shrine for 10 wasn't enough.
How Kedi tests his decks: Spoiler:
Show
also, I've been playtesting this deck in my sleep today
that kinda freaked me out
Sleeping on Halloween: Spoiler:
Show
Halloween is a conspiracy by crossdressers and furries.
Thanks to Kipz for the sig. Make a contract with me to become a magical girl!
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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 8:05PM
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I like how the deck has run so far. Down at FNM, it's destroyed every human deck and hasn't been killed by aombies once, infact everytime I fight zombies I win.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 8:48PM
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(disregard catowner)Posting, or briefly explaining your deck would be a good start. Other than that, Cavern of Souls  will largely solve the counter spell issue for you (assuming you are running heavy creature tribal). Supreme Verdict  and Bonfire are a bit of an issue if you are locked in BR, although Falkenrath Aristocrat  dodges. Terminus  is really annoying, and there aren't a lot of reasonable answers to it within BR. Golgari Charm  is a great way to answer a lot of non-Terminus threats (like Verdict) from popular W/x decks (UW control, white tokens, maybe the occasional enchant-heavy deck), but requires at least splashing green, and thus an investment in more dual-lands.
Standard Pauper!
(play it on MTGO)
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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 9:12PM
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I like how the deck has run so far. Down at FNM, it's destroyed every human deck and hasn't been killed by aombies once, infact everytime I fight zombies I win.
If your opponents are playing humans and zombies, you can bring 60 basics to your fnm and win.
(disregard Weisse)
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1000th post November 26, 2010. Where Islands gets his decks: Spoiler:
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It was revealed to me in a dream. All the cards were in my dream except for three slots which I plugged in as Vault Skirge.
FULL DISCLOSURE: The dream was post AVR so there was a copy of Slayer's Stronghold. I decided to keep it pre AVR in my post here.
EDIT: I just remembered. The Skirges might have been 2x Whipflare and 1x something else, probably War and Peace.
EDIT2: Currently 4-0 in my first four games with this. My opponents have been very angry. I fought off a Wurmcoil from Grixis for six turns before I found my second Dispatch. Jeez, I can do a lot of damage.
EDIT3: Streak broken. Lost to an unexpected Overrun. Cracking a Shrine for 10 wasn't enough.
How Kedi tests his decks: Spoiler:
Show
also, I've been playtesting this deck in my sleep today
that kinda freaked me out
Sleeping on Halloween: Spoiler:
Show
Halloween is a conspiracy by crossdressers and furries.
Thanks to Kipz for the sig. Make a contract with me to become a magical girl!
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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 10:59PM
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My deck is as follows to help you guys out...
x4 Vampire Nighthawk
x4 Stromkirk Captain
x4 Pillar of Flame
x4 Brimstone volley
x2 Bloodcrazed Neonate
x3 Ultimate price
x3 Rakish Heir
x2 Falkenrath Marauders
x4 Bloodline Keeper
x2 Geistflame
x4 Stromkirk Noble
Lands
x8 Mountain
x8 Swamp
x2 Dragonskull Summit
x2 Blood crypt
x3 Rakdos Guildgate
SIDE-BOARD
x4 bump in the night
x4 Blood artist
x4 Skeletal grimace
x3 Searing spear
Now I am going to be adding in more dual-lands, and I will be replacing ultimate price with dreadbore and perhaps add some murder.
Does this help? :3
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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 11:45PM
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Date Joined:
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If you know your opponent has mass creature removal, just don't play all your creatures and leave some in hand? Worked when there was Wrath of God and Damnation back then, will still work now.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 09, 2012 - 8:47AM
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Date Joined:
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If you know your opponent has mass creature removal, just don't play all your creatures and leave some in hand? Worked when there was Wrath of God and Damnation back then, will still work now.
this. To beat a control deck, you have to be prepared to beat it. Otherwise, you won't beat it. Sever the Bloodline, Dreadbore are both decent against the Murica deck that won SCG this past weekend. Ultimate Price is decent removal as well.
(at)MrEnglish22
"still a better Commander card than Emmara Tandris"
-On the topic of Squire
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