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7 months ago  ::  Oct 25, 2012 - 8:45AM #41
JaketheLate
Date Joined: Dec 9, 2008
Posts: 2,406

Oct 24, 2012 -- 7:15PM, DarkArtist711 wrote:

id like to throw this up for thought.

Essence Harvest

its flings without having to actually "fling". three mana for a potential post-combat win doesnt seem terrible. hell. even three mana for the mid-late game lifegain doesnt sound bad either. a bit better than the  Disciple of Bolas and cheaper, sure u dont get the card draw, but lets face it, we would rather those cards being dredged anyways.     



the great thing about Disciple is that he's a creature. you use him to sac a creature that isn't nescessary at a later point in the game, get life back that you most likely lost in the early stages of the game, and draw more creature cards that you can then discard to the troll. He does a LOT for this deck at four mana.

I would have killed, literally ended someones life, to NOT have Arrogant Bloodlord riding a giant ant...

Good times:
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but where DID the other fork come from?
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Lord_Zed:   
I was at my friends house when this happened. He's married and his wife was an excellent baker. She had baked a homemade apple pie the night before.

I was hungry, and my friend convinced me to try those low carb monster drinks. Before this day, I had never triend energy drinks before.

Boy was I in for a treat.

When I tried that first monster, I really enjoyed the flavor, but the taste that it left in my mouth wasn't so good. What was my solution? Drink another!

before I could finish drinking that 2nd monster, I felt it already kicking in(these drinks were not very far apart, we're talking minutes here) my friend decided that it was a good idea to whip out that fresh pie his wife made the night before. I didn't know what to do, since I felt incredibly invigorated, and at the same time, freaked out by the rush I was feeling, but I was also hungry, and my friend have me an entire plate with a fork and said "help yourself." He extended his saucer to me, and I cut him a piece of the pie and handed it to him, then I looked at the pie, noticed that the pie was in an aluminum holder, and dumped the entire pie onto my plate and started eating it with 2 forks. I don't know where I found that other fork, it probably came from my friend. Anyhow, his wife wasn't happy, and I was already in magical christmas land. 2 days later, I was in my friends bed and I slept for 14 hours.

His wife outlawed my from having any of her baked goods for a while(which sucked because I could just show up at there house, steal some sweets, and leave) and said I couldn't have any energy drinks at her house, unless under close watch.

My friend, on the other hand, had to take me out to a steak dinner, because apparently I won a bet where I climbed a tree and didn't die.

The great land debate:
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Feb 12, 2011 -- 7:31PM, alanwescoat wrote:

Zendikar had fetchlands, and Worldwake had manlands.  What are the new Scars duals called?



Feb 12, 2011 -- 8:56PM, Razorgore wrote:

Explosive Peanut Lightning lands. Well, that's just what I call them.




Mar 3, 2011 -- 12:54AM, Razorgore wrote:

Mar 2, 2011 -- 11:01PM, Burning_Forest wrote:

i'm just trying to figure out what the point of saying this is.  it's just really random.



And so the pot met the kettle.

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7 months ago  ::  Oct 25, 2012 - 1:10PM #42
mallrat
Date Joined: Dec 22, 2006
Posts: 1,278
How testing? Need result
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7 months ago  ::  Oct 26, 2012 - 11:50AM #43
Forehand0
Date Joined: Jun 26, 2012
Posts: 61
I have a very similar deck as my main standard deck at the moment. I'm not really super competetive but neither is this type of deck! Here is what I have:

Creatures:
2 x Acidic Slime
4 x Deadbridge Goliath
1 x Deathrite Shaman
4 x Dreg Mangler
3 x Gatecreeper Vine
4 x Ghoultree
2 x Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
2 x Korozda Guildmage
4 x Splinterfright
 

Lands:
4 x Evolving Wilds
10 x Forest
4 x Golgari Guildgate
6 x Swamp
2 x Transguild Promenade


Instants:
2 x Gnaw to the Bone
4 x Grisly Salvage

Sorceries:
2x Mulch

I will be getting more Deathrite Shaman as soon as I can scrap the money up to do so (my 1 was a MVP at pre-release). Also try not to laugh at my lands, I just don't have the cash right now to buy all of those expensive multi colored lands. I agree with what people have said about this needing to be a very creature heavy deck. I removed my Treasured Find and my other 2 Mulch because of that. Gnaw to the Bone still remains as one of my few spells for its amazing utility. Few life gain spells are so darn powerfull late game. I'm not really sold on the Korozda Guildmage but I do like the ability to make an an unblockable ghoul tree.

Considerations
Dawntreader Elk I use him heavily when my deck was G/U however with the gates out i've started to use more Gatecreeper Vines not totally sold on this switch but seems to be working alright.

Disciple of Bolas I had never considered him but the more I think about it the more I like him. Card advantage is nothing to scoff at. 
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7 months ago  ::  Oct 27, 2012 - 3:19AM #44
kagayami
Date Joined: Feb 28, 2009
Posts: 86
im actually playing almost this same list, but i only have the mulch and the  grisly salvage as my spells. all other cards are creatures and lands. I only play 20 lands.

here is the list

4 -  Deathrite Shaman
4 -  Slitherhead
4 -  Lotleth Troll
4 -  Boneyard Wurm
4 -  Dreg Mangler
4 -  Splinterfright
4 -  Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
4 -  Ghoultree

Spells:
4 - Mulch
4 -  Grisly Salvage

Lands:
4 -  Overgrown Tomb
4 -  Woodland Cemetery
6 -  Forest
6 -  Swamp

while playing the list I posted, im not impressed by the Lotleth Troll unless i have lots of Deathrite Shaman  and Slitherhead  on my hand eventhough the troll can stall the game until i have a 5/5 or greater creature on the field. I play tested this deck against a selesnya aggro type deck and an izzet control. I think the shaman and the slitherhead is not that good for the 1 drop. I can get lot of lands with the mulch and the salvage. im considering the  Dawntreader elk for the mana ramp.

Also this deck needs a life gain maybe Disciple of Bolas  would do. Always ended up with only 5 or less life before I can set up the board. With a slitherhead that can be fed on the troll plus a dreg mangler, a 3/2 or maybe 4/3 troll plus a 3/3 mangler puts a pressure.
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7 months ago  ::  Oct 27, 2012 - 12:29PM #45
Andresius
Date Joined: Oct 29, 2011
Posts: 2
I used to Self-Mill a looooot when innistrad, had a nice green/black/blue deck, using the armored skaabs to mill myself and buy some turns and another creature finding milling spell with flashback that i forget.

Maybe 3 colors is a bit of a stretch since you cant really ramp so much and the great viridian emmisaries are gone but there is a card here that you guys HAVE TO GET, GNAW TO THE BONE, instant spell 3 mana, 2 life for each creature in cemetery aaaaaand it has flashback, if you need life, thats the card for you.

Just my 2 cents, if you guys can make an awesome self-milling deck im copying it cuz i love that mechanic 
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7 months ago  ::  Oct 28, 2012 - 1:43AM #46
SaMueller1987
Date Joined: Oct 12, 2012
Posts: 20
After experimenting with BUG, I switched back to BG, here is my deck as of right now, let me know what you think

Land:
4 overgrown tomb
4 woodland cemetary
6 swamp
8 forest

Creatures:
4 deathrite shaman
4 lotleth troll
4 boneyard wurm
2 vampire nighthawk
4 splinterfright
4 jarad
2 ghoultree

Spells:
4 mulch
4 grisly salvage
2 underworld connections
2 gnaw to the bone
2 jarads orders


Sideboard:
3 pithing needle
3 abrupt decay
2 vampire nighthawk
2 gnaw to the bone
1 witchbane orb
2 kessig cagebreakers
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7 months ago  ::  Oct 31, 2012 - 6:54PM #47
SaMueller1987
Date Joined: Oct 12, 2012
Posts: 20
StarCity games premium just came out with a deck kind of like this (it doesn't have splinterfright, but in the article he mentioned he forgot splinterfright existed and plans to add him.  It def. belongs here).  Its a B/G/r deck.  Here is the list:
Maindeck:

Creatures
2 Borderland Ranger
4 Deathrite Shaman
3 Disciple of Bolas
3 Gatecreeper Vine
2 Ghoultree
1 Gravecrawler
4 Lotleth Troll
4 Thragtusk
4 Veilborn Ghoul

Instants
1 Abrupt Decay
4 Grisly Salvage

Legendary Creatures
2 Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord


Planeswalkers
2 Liliana of the Veil

Sorceries
3 Faithless Looting

Basic Lands
3 Forest
1 Mountain
3 Swamp

Lands
2 Blood Crypt
4 Evolving Wilds
4 Overgrown Tomb
4 Woodland Cemetery
Sideboard:

4 Huntmaster of the Fells
1 Abrupt Decay
2 Gnaw to the Bone
2 Liliana of the Veil
1 Appetite for Brains
3 Duress
2 Rakdos's Return



I like alot of what he does, especially the faithless looting.  I'm going to play around with this and get back to you guys!
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7 months ago  ::  Nov 01, 2012 - 12:22AM #48
kagayami
Date Joined: Feb 28, 2009
Posts: 86

this deck needs a lot of creatures... if you can make the right count count to make a 3/3 Splinterfright and Boneyard Wurm on your 3rd turn that's good... but having small sized creatures on turn 4 would give you a hard time...


I switched my Slitherhead   to an Ulvenwald Tracker . This helps in removing blockers or to control their creature if you have a big guy out. Deathrite Shaman also helps in keeping my life or lossing life for my opponent. Lotleth Troll is basically good... (i take back what i said last time) Having a Lotleth Troll back to back with a Splinterfright or Boneyard Wurm plus a Ghoultree in your hand with lots of other creature cards, feed the troll and both creatures becomes big.


Well... play testing this type of deck for days enlightened me on how this deck should be played. As much as possible, i tried to play a Ghoultree as fast as I can. There is this instance that i played a Ghoultree on my 3rd turn.This is what just happened...


I drew Forest , Swamp , Mulch , Mulch , Ulvenwald Tracker , Lotleth Troll and a Ghoultree


1st turn
I played Forest , cast Ulvenwald Tracker and then past the turn.
2nd turn
I played my Swamp , cast Mulch , ( got no lands, all 4 cards are creatures that was thrown to the graveyard. my opponent laughed, because of no lands, I, too, was not happy about that because i may be delayed a turn after).
3rd turn
I played my 2nd Mulch , got a Woodland Cemetery and 3 creature cards being thrown to the graveyard. Played my Woodland Cemetery . Then i noticed that 7 creature cards in my graveyard would lead to 1 drop Ghoultree . Well that was weird... and kind of disturbing... Well my opponent was also shocked with that having a 3rd turn 10/10 on the table plus a creature removal ( Ulvenwald Tracker ) will defintely wipe his creature out if he can't find any answer.

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7 months ago  ::  Nov 01, 2012 - 8:01AM #49
Niche
Date Joined: Apr 25, 2008
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Yes, Ghoultree is the win. Splinterfright is the engine and backup crusher. Boneyard is not good enough most of the time.

I always forget about Tracker. He was in my deck pre rotation as a creature that does removal. He'll be making a return appearance asap.

I think the red is unnecessary and keeps you from playing rogue's passage, a darn good card. 


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7 months ago  ::  Nov 01, 2012 - 9:21AM #50
CrazyToast
Date Joined: May 12, 2010
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Oct 9, 2012 -- 6:01PM, Niche wrote:

You know, as much as I think 4 mana is a heavy activation cost on a land.... paying 4 to get a Ghoultree in is extremely efficient mana expenditure. And it should be convenient with a full set of Mulches and Grisly Salvages and Deathrite Shamans to push mana.




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