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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 6:03PM
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So my friend and I undertook the daunting task of making a set. Here's what we got. The plane of Corthenhol is a more technologically advanced plane than most. The Fist of Iron, a corrupted legion of soldiers and officals wielding the powerful, otherworldly alloy of Oxidite have outlawed one of the most abundant and most practical studies on the plane—steam machinery—because of their precious alloy’s negative reactivity to water of any kind. The steampunk rebels, named the Order of Hydrolysis, have taken matters into their own hands. Just as the powerful Ironfist army crushed the main governing body a long time ago, the Hydros are willing to risk their lives to overthrow the Fist of Iron. The Order of Hydrolysis - The Hydros   The Hydros are the steampunkesque outlaws of the plane. They don't think of themselves as criminals of course, but they do see the monarchy that is the Fist of Iron being absolutely unjust for banning the Hydros' way of life. Corthenhol is largely made of vast oceans, so they can't help but feel it's counterproductive to place a ban on technology running off of water. Keywords Effervesce X (At the beginning of your upkeep, put X steam counters on this creature/card.) Creatures and artifacts tend to have effervesce, which is a word meaning to essentially boil. The amount of steam counters tend to only be relevant to permanents with effervesce, so cards giving or moving steam counters tend to state the target must have effervesce. The Fist of Iron   The Fist of Iron, or Ironfists as they're called, are a former collective mining group who overthrew the previous ruling bodies of Corthenhol. They discovered a rare element which could be refined into an alloy with other elements called "Oxidite". Oxidite is an alloy that is very powerful when tested against other metals, however, it rapidly begins to disintergrate and corrode when it comes in contact with water. As such, when the Ironfists took over, they banned the number one research topic--steam machinery--out of fear of another uprising that would overthrow them. Their power and perhaps a strange element to their oxidite has made them corrupt, as such they can tap into black mana. Keywords Prepare (At the beginning of any end step, if there were no declared attackers that turn, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature.) The Fist of Iron army tends to stay alert, even when battles don't occur. Their keyword keeps them active by getting stronger as war lies dormant. Wildlife of Corthenhol  I couldn't just leave green out of the set, so most of the midregion of the main island of Corthenhol is a dense natural forest. The wildlife of Corthenhol doesn't want anything to do with the Hydro v Ironfist war, so they tend to stay within their habitat. However, if a war breaks out in this great forest (which needs a name), then the beasts retaliate agressively, holding nothing back. Also, since Corthenhol is mostly ocean, aquatic wildlife exists in abundance, and is just as volatile as the rest of their grounded brethren. Keywords Swarm: Depending on whether you played a creature spell this turn affects how creatures or spells with swarm play. They usually get added bonuses to their effects if you played a creature spell that turn. So there you have it. As it stands, I have a serious case of writer's block, so I can't develop much on the story and as such can't develop much on the cards. I will post up some samples later. Critique? Comments? Criticism? I'd appreciate any of it.
I should probably put something here someday.
Here's a set I'm working on: http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29422241/Corthenhol_--_A_Work_in_Progress
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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 6:04PM
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I should probably put something here someday.
Here's a set I'm working on: http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29422241/Corthenhol_--_A_Work_in_Progress
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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 8:12PM
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So far both of your mechanics are counter-oriented. I, personally, think that that is fine - but I'd be wary of adding any more counters. Prepare isn't as good a name as Effervescence. You should be really careful how you cost those - like I'm thinking a Vanilla Preparer would look something like: Vanilla Preparer   Creature - Human Baker (C) Prepare "Delicious."1/1 I'd be curious to see an example of a permanent with Effervescence - to see what exactly it does. As for your writer's block, I'd suggest taking a random individual in Corthenhol and writing just maybe a diary entry for them. See if any ideas come to mind. Like it can just start with what he or she had for breakfast, but at some point it is likely that your mind will be inspired by just what everyday life on a Plane like Corthenhol must be like. Plus Steampunk lends itself to easy-to-write characters. Try some Legends - and the Iron Fist seems like it'd be full of stereotypical bureaucratic Villains. Hope that helps a little.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 9:36PM
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This is a cool set. I'm surprised you didn't include an artifact theme.
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Then there is the impact on other industries. Do people in the cereal industry deserve to be employed more than people in the bacon industry? Which industry should I support? I don't even have the data regarding HOW MUCH the cereal industry benefits from me eating a bowl of cereal, or how much the bacon industry benefits from me eating a side of bacon. How can I compare two qualities I can't even quantify?
And let's not forget the milk on the cereal. In addition to determining whether or not milk is healthy for me, how much that benefits the milk industry, and how much the people in the milk industry deserve my support, we have to factor in the fact that cows are put under brutal conditions in order to collect thier milk. Of course, the same goes for the pigs, and then they get killed. Of course, I really like bacon. So I need to come up with a scale that compares the value of cow happiness to pig happiness to my happiness. What trade-offs am I willing to make here? Does the fact that the pig gets put out of its misery count as a plus or a minus? Isn't bacon bad for me anyway?
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I must admit chinkeeyong, you have the most interesting character ideas; and you play them well.
Anyway, you'd be surprised about Time Stop. When I first saw that card as a relatively new player I didn't see its full potential until I read the reminder text. Is it that unintuitive, though? Mine I mean. What is possibility? Is it possible for me to type these words with my tusks? No, because I don't have tusks. Although I am now tempted to go buy some - obviously not from poachers or whatever - and use them as typing apparatus. I could be the best secretary ever. "What's your words per minute sir?" "Well, only six, but I use these tusks to type them." "You're hired!" That was the interview. And is anyone else disappointed that "apparati" is not the plural form of apparatus? I just could strangle a dictionary, because "apparatuses" is a real word. I guess it sounds pretty cool. I'll call them my Apparatusks.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 9:55PM
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I'm surprised myself I didn't include an artifact theme. For future reference, there are colored artifacts in this set, similar to Esper from Alara. And here's a preview of an Effervesce card: Condensing Cannon  Artifact (Uncommon) Effervesce 2 (At the beginning of your upkeep, put two steam counters on this card.) Remove five steam counters from ~: Destroy target creature. Not a final design of this particular card, of course. I always end up tweaking stuff here and there. For example, the Hydro's former keyword was something called Condense. Went something like this: (At the beginning of your upkeep, you may choose to skip your combat step. If you do, this creature gets +X/+X until the end of your next turn, where X is the number of permanents with condense you control. Condense only once per turn.) Obviously, this mechanic was really clunky, and went under constant revisions. At the time, Ironfists didn't have a keyword yet, so I eventually when with converting Condense into something less... stupid (prepare) and gave Effervesce, a more fun mechanic in my opinion, to the Hydros.
I should probably put something here someday.
Here's a set I'm working on: http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29422241/Corthenhol_--_A_Work_in_Progress
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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 11:42PM
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Personally I'm not a fan of adding new counter types to the game. My basic guideline for counters would be:
- Do these counters do anything on their own at all? Or are they simply a way of keeping score on specific card?
- If they do nothing in a vacuum, then do they shine in flavour so much that another type of counter - notably charge counters - couldn't easily be used instead.
I don't feel that yours go far enough beyond charge counters to be worth having a name change. I think you can still keep the steampunk theme with charge counters, just keep the names and types flavourful.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 09, 2012 - 5:24AM
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I did ponder on that as well. I knew steam counters wouldn't do a whole lot outside the set, but didn't want to change them. This is a work in progress, so changing the counters to be more functional outside is always on the table.
I should probably put something here someday.
Here's a set I'm working on: http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29422241/Corthenhol_--_A_Work_in_Progress
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8 months ago ::
Oct 09, 2012 - 4:04PM
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I did ponder on that as well. I knew steam counters wouldn't do a whole lot outside the set, but didn't want to change them. This is a work in progress, so changing the counters to be more functional outside is always on the table.
Charge counters are great for that - they're semi-evergreen and show up all over the place. If you wanted to make Johnny  happy you could put +1/+1 counters on them, even on the non-creatures.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 09, 2012 - 4:34PM
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Actually, "change card t ype" was my first Johnny moment. I loved Mishra's Factory  when I first started playing. (Okay, that dates me.)
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8 months ago ::
Oct 09, 2012 - 5:30PM
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As much as I want to keep the steam counters, I think I'm gonna switch them over to charge counters. It's sorta arbitrary to keep a set-specific counter around when charge counters are universal. I have an idea for a card that turns charge counters into +1/+1 counters if that floats anyone's boat. There is this card, also: Pressurizing Automaton  Artifact Creature - Construct (rare) Effervesce 1 Pressurizing Automaton gets +1/+1 for every charge counter on it. 1/1
I should probably put something here someday.
Here's a set I'm working on: http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29422241/Corthenhol_--_A_Work_in_Progress
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