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8 months ago ::
Oct 07, 2012 - 11:09PM
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Is it me or is dark ritual  a tad bit over the top, I was playing against a friend the other day, he ran with his mono black vampire deck, I guess he had 2 of them in his opening hand. second turn vampire nocturnus  , third turn anowon, the ruin sage  , and I gave up.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 07, 2012 - 11:10PM
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yes, it is overpowered
that's why it is not printed anymore
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8 months ago ::
Oct 07, 2012 - 11:28PM
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Just be glad you missed the T1, Dark Ritual  , Hippy  days.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 07, 2012 - 11:34PM
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I think it's over powered, but it has been reprinted so many times that I think it wouldn't be awful to bring it back in the future. As long as there are answers or mechanics that make it worth printing again, I'd enjoy it. Then again, I love old cards and the craziness they offered so... my opinion is probably a bad one.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 07, 2012 - 11:43PM
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I think it's over powered, but it has been reprinted so many times that I think it wouldn't be awful to bring it back in the future. As long as there are answers or mechanics that make it worth printing again, I'd enjoy it. Then again, I love old cards and the craziness they offered so... my opinion is probably a bad one.
Ugh, I hope they never reprint Ritual given what you just said. I hate when they print "answers" to good, classic cards and strategies. Those answers being typically way the hell over the top...
As for the OP's grievances, what can you do? It's black's main card. It's the right thing to do and the tasty way to do it, sayeth Brimley. It owns, but it's as defining to black as Lightning Bolt is to red, Ancestral Recall to blue, etc.
Me, I use Dark Ritual to loop super secret tech combos. It is hot butter to my potatoes. Dark Ritual, she's a good lady.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 07, 2012 - 11:47PM
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there already are some  answers  to dark ritual it's just still very very overpowered
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8 months ago ::
Oct 07, 2012 - 11:51PM
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I think it's over powered, but it has been reprinted so many times that I think it wouldn't be awful to bring it back in the future. As long as there are answers or mechanics that make it worth printing again, I'd enjoy it. Then again, I love old cards and the craziness they offered so... my opinion is probably a bad one.
i doubt they want it in modern
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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 12:38AM
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Dark Ritual was bad for the game. After a while designers realized they were building every black card around it. They didn't dare make low cost black cards too good because they knew they'd hit the board on turn 1 or 2 thanks to Dark Rit. Finally they came to the conclusion that the problem was that Dark Rit had warped black so much that black was unplayable without it. So they came upon a very simple solution: stop printing Dark Rit. Not long after it rotated out of Standard, the casting costs of black cards started to normalize.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 12:49AM
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In my opinion cards like Simian Spirit Guide  and Lotus Petal  are fine because they give you one mana for a card on the first turn of the game. Dark Ritual however gives you two mana for a card on the first turn of the game, and in my opinion that's too good.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 7:16AM
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dark rit ruining the game/black is a lame excuse for designers who cant think creatively enough or are too lazy to try and properly design cards and players who suck. oh you played 3 dark rituals?, well in response im gonna play silence so you cant spend that mana on anything but an instant. oh snap! a t1 2dark rit>phyrexian obiliterator.....i'll snap  it back to your hand. a dark rit into hypnotic spector/vampire night hawk, lets just bolt that bitch. the only time dark rit is truely OP is on turn one and even then that is only because(especially now days) people dont think to plan for it in a black deck and 90% of anything they will play has a 1 or 2 cmc answer in every color/combination ffs a 2mana chalice of the void will protect you from it. edit forgot what the  creature bounce spell was but wasnt snap.... and on further edit i know ecsef used to cast dark rits just to turn on and pump mana into a poly artifact throne of bone before they errata'd it to be once per spell 
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