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8 months ago ::
Oct 07, 2012 - 6:52PM
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How does cards with a mana cost of X and/or overload work with Epic Experiment  ? And also can overload work with flashback? Thanks
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8 months ago ::
Oct 07, 2012 - 6:54PM
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Also, Goblin Electromancer  , does his effect still work with flashback and Epic Experiment . And does his effect work with X costs? Thanks
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8 months ago ::
Oct 07, 2012 - 6:59PM
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How does cards with a mana cost of X and/or overload work with Epic Experiment  ?
If you cast a spell without paying its mana cost, the only legal choice for X is 0. You cannot pay alternative costs such as overload costs.
And also can overload work with flashback?
If you cast a spell with flashback, you must pay its flashback cost. You cannot cast it for its overload cost.
Also, Goblin Electromancer  , does his effect still work with flashback and Epic Experiment . And does his effect work with X costs?
If you cast a spell for its flashback cost, Goblin Electromancer reduces the total cost by  . If you cast a spell with X in its mana cost, first you choose the value of X, then Goblin Electromancer reduces the total cost by .
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8 months ago ::
Oct 07, 2012 - 7:06PM
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From RtR FAQ
Epic Experiment * If you cast a card “without paying its mana cost,” you can’t pay alternative costs such as overload costs. You can pay additional costs such as kicker costs. If the card has mandatory additional costs, you must pay those. * If a card has {X} in its mana cost, you must choose 0 as its value.
so it cant pay for the overload cost and x is 0. Only additional cost can (must) be paid.
For the other question, Are you gonna use this  to cast this  ? unfortunately, it would not work. As per The Gatherer:
"You can’t pay other alternative costs of a card you’re casting from your graveyard using flashback. For example, if the instant or sorcery has an overload cost, you can’t pay that cost. "
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8 months ago ::
Oct 07, 2012 - 7:07PM
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Date Joined:
Sep 12, 2010
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How does cards with a mana cost of X and/or overload work with Epic Experiment ?
If you cast a spell without paying its mana cost, the only legal choice for X is 0.
And also can overload work with flashback?
If you cast a spell with flashback, you must pay its flashback cost. You cannot cast it for its overload cost.
Also, Goblin Electromancer , does his effect still work with flashback and Epic Experiment . And does his effect work with X costs?
If you cast a spell for its flashback cost, Goblin Electromancer reduces the total cost by . If you cast a spell with X in its mana cost, first you choose a value for X, then Goblin Electromancer reduces the total cost by .
yes it can reduce the X amount.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 07, 2012 - 7:52PM
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How does cards with a mana cost of X and/or overload work with Epic Experiment ?
They don't. For spells with X in the cast you may only choose X=0. Overload is an alternate cost and so is the effect of Epic Experiment and you can't have two alternate costs.
And also can overload work with flashback?
no, flashback is also an alternate cost and you can't have two.
Also, Goblin Electromancer , does his effect still work with flashback
yes
and Epic Experiment ?
yes, but you aren't paying the mana cost any way so it'd only benefit you if you had some additional cost to pay (like kicker)
And does his effect work with X costs?
when cast normally, yes
but if cast by Epic Experiment, X=0 and you aren't paying the mana cost anyway so there's no help there.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 07, 2012 - 10:30PM
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yes it can reduce the X amount.
no
it reduces the total cost, it doesn't reduce what you have chosen for X
or did you mean it can be applied to the  part?
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