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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 6:49AM
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I would like to say that I do not want a big massive flame war, and I don't think anyone else does. However, this set, and particularly the "evolve" keyword, come within an inch of starting such a war. Please bear that in mind.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 7:10AM
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I would like to say that I do not want a big massive flame war, and I don't think anyone else does. However, this set, and particularly the "evolve" keyword, come within an inch of starting such a war. Please bear that in mind.
If someone chooses to start a flamewar due to their hatred of pokemon, they can feel free to get themselves banned. Fortunately the only person who would do such a thing on this forum... just got himself banned. And then came back as a sockpuppet. Which got banned. So if he decides to return again, I'm sure he'll do just fine at getting banned.
Questions: 1) @dudibus: why is carnivore worded the way it is? I mean, as it's worded it doesn't work (you need to reveal a card in your hand before you can use an ability on it), and even if it did it would allow you to randomly sacrifice a creature, then do nothing. Why not just sacrifice as an alternative cost?
2) @Lancerrex8: Are you sure you want to split dinosaurs up into seperate types? If you do, dinosaur tribal will forever remain essentially impossible (there won't be enough of any single type of dinosaur to make a good tribal deck) whereas if you don't split them dinosaur tribal could work well after this block. However, the reproduce mechanic would work best if based on type, and that would probably require the types to be split (otherwise you get raptors mating with t-rex's)
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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 8:09AM
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I would like to say that I do not want a big massive flame war, and I don't think anyone else does. However, this set, and particularly the "evolve" keyword, come within an inch of starting such a war. Please bear that in mind.
If someone chooses to start a flamewar due to their hatred of pokemon, they can feel free to get themselves banned. Fortunately the only person who would do such a thing on this forum... just got himself banned. And then came back as a sockpuppet. Which got banned. So if he decides to return again, I'm sure he'll do just fine at getting banned.
I'm confused. Who are you saying would be getting banned? And I would like it noted that I'm trying to prevent a flamewar by noting a line of discussion that must be watched, or someone is going to seriously insult someone else.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 8:27AM
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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 8:37AM
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"Just accept that magic is a fantasy multiverse, with plenty of room for everything."
That I can easily accept. The problem lies elsewhere, but I can't tell you what it is, because, from what you said, there's no way to tell you what I would find unacceptable without being banned. I guess you'll know when it happens, then.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 9:20AM
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I would like to say that I do not want a big massive flame war, and I don't think anyone else does. However, this set, and particularly the "evolve" keyword, come within an inch of starting such a war. Please bear that in mind.
If someone chooses to start a flamewar due to their hatred of pokemon, they can feel free to get themselves banned. Fortunately the only person who would do such a thing on this forum... just got himself banned. And then came back as a sockpuppet. Which got banned. So if he decides to return again, I'm sure he'll do just fine at getting banned.
Questions: 1) @dudibus: why is carnivore worded the way it is? I mean, as it's worded it doesn't work (you need to reveal a card in your hand before you can use an ability on it), and even if it did it would allow you to randomly sacrifice a creature, then do nothing. Why not just sacrifice as an alternative cost?
2) @Lancerrex8: Are you sure you want to split dinosaurs up into seperate types? If you do, dinosaur tribal will forever remain essentially impossible (there won't be enough of any single type of dinosaur to make a good tribal deck) whereas if you don't split them dinosaur tribal could work well after this block. However, the reproduce mechanic would work best if based on type, and that would probably require the types to be split (otherwise you get raptors mating with t-rex's)
I was not aware you had to reveal a card before you could use an ability on that card. Wouldn't it work like Flash? The point of the ability was for you to sacrfice a creature (not just any creature, I put the 'must cost one less' ability to make it less powerful, and to try to follow the idea of a Food Chain . Maybe it would be better to say something like "Sacrifice a creature to reduce the cost of this creatures casting cost by the casting cost of the sacrificed creature?". What do you think would be a better wording?
As much as I would like to comment on Evolution, I am now worried that I might get banned if I attempt any clarification. Feel free to PM about what I was going for if you are interested in intellectual conversation on the subject.
That being said, my ideas were rough ones I worked on for a bit that do not necessarily reflect any personal feelings. I am not surprised there might be issues with some of the wording. I can send anyone that wants it the MSE file, there is 74 cards (not all have images), or I can post a bunch more here.
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Perfect originality is overrated and often ugly. The best and most beautiful cards I've ever seen were clearly inspired by something else.
Cards are not entirely unlike living organisms in this regard. All the good ones are a result of long evolution; the 'original' ones are either monocellular or mutant aberrations.
Graveborn are strictly better than Zombies. I mean, look at that wicked beard . You try growing that when your dead. And I know aging fellows who are suffering from Male Pattern Baldness, who would kill for a Mop like Ribsy's over there.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 9:34AM
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You guys have been getting Angels since forever, I think we should be able to have some fun with Dinosaurs every now and then. Also, chill everyone. Getting banned here is incredibly rare. Some wording clearups, because I have little else to contribute at the moment:
Carnivore (You may sacrifice a creature with converted mana cost equal to this card minus one rather than paying this card's mana cost.)
I have two alternatives to make it flow slightly better. Carnivore (You may sacrifice any number of creatures with combined converted mana cost equal to or more than this card's converted mana cost rather than paying this card's mana cost.) Carnivore X (You may sacrifice a creature with converted mana cost X rather than paying this card's mana cost.)
Overall though, I don't see the mechanic making much of a splash, sacrificing a non-token creature is a pretty big cost. It could also be tied to toughness if you'd like. Carnivore (You may sacrifice any number of creatures with combined toughness equal to or higher than this card's converted mana cost rather than paying this card's mana cost.)
Moving on: Pack (When this creature enters the battlefield, you may search your library for a card that shares a name with it, shuffle your library and put that card on top of it.) Herbivore (Each [type] you sacrifice while casting this card reduces its mana cost by a color that land could produce.) Alternatively, "reduces it's mana cost by [color]".
Not going to go into Evolution. Creatures can't be attached to other creatures, so you might want to look at Grandeur or something instead.
Everything Mown does is elegant.

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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 9:35AM
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I would word carnivore as:
Carnivore (You may sacrifice a creature with converted mana cost one less than this creature's rather than pay this creature's mana cost)
That means you reveal it, and pay its cost (or sacrifice) as you cast it. Nice and simple.
EDIT: apparently I got ninjaed.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 1:06PM
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Date Joined:
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Also, chill everyone. Getting banned here is incredibly rare.
Also, I actually like Mown's original Carnivore. It's reminiscent of Birthing Pod except reverse, and without the tutoring. I know he said he wasn't fond of it, but I would probably play one or two creatures with this if they were well-made anyway. Kinda reminds me of Offering which I am fond of.
What about the reverse? Creatures with Prey - Sac. this guy to get a guy from your hand with CMC one higher. Only do this like you do sorceriez.
Whiny weenie and observant aren't the same thing pablo, somehow I thought you'd understand.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 1:39PM
#20
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Personally I think you should scrap Carnivore and bring back Devour. It already exists and fills the same place flavourfully, letting you focus on the other mechnics. Tar Pits Land
Tar pits comes into play tapped.  : Add  to your mana pool.    ,Sacrifice Tar Pits: Destroy target tapped creature. The prospect of being discovered millenia later does little to alleviate that sinking feeling...
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