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9 months ago ::
Oct 06, 2012 - 4:16PM
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If I have Arcane Melee  out and I want to cast Black Sun's Zenith  for 4, does the enchantment reduce the cost by two generic and I only have to pay 2BB for it? Thanks in advance!
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9 months ago ::
Oct 06, 2012 - 4:23PM
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Oct 18, 2009
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If I have Arcane Melee out and I want to cast Black Sun's Zenith for 4, does the enchantment reduce the cost by two generic and I only have to pay 2BB for it?
Yes, that's correct.
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9 months ago ::
Oct 06, 2012 - 4:26PM
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If I have Arcane Melee out and I want to cast Black Sun's Zenith for 4, does the enchantment reduce the cost by two generic and I only have to pay 2BB for it?
Yes, that's correct.
But does that mean that I have to make Black Sun's Zenith X cost at least 2 when I cast it? Or can I choose to exclude Arcane Melee's effect?
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9 months ago ::
Oct 06, 2012 - 4:28PM
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When you cast BSZ you choose a value for X, then later you pay the cost.
You can not choose not to apply Arcane Melee, but you can just choose X =2 (if that's your goal)
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9 months ago ::
Oct 06, 2012 - 4:28PM
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Rules Advisor Please autocard: [c ]Disenchant[/c ] = Disenchant  .
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9 months ago ::
Oct 06, 2012 - 4:29PM
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But does that mean that I have to make Black Sun's Zenith X cost at least 2 when I cast it?
You are welcome to pick a number smaller than 2. For example, if you pick X = 1, then the total cost of Black Sun's Zenith =   -  = .
Or can I choose to exclude Arcane Melee's effect?
Arcane melee's effect is not optional.
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9 months ago ::
Oct 06, 2012 - 4:30PM
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Awesome. Thanks a bunch guys. I appreciate it!
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9 months ago ::
Oct 07, 2012 - 2:58AM
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Out of curiousity, why would you want to choose to not apply Arcane Melee 's cost reduction?
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9 months ago ::
Oct 07, 2012 - 3:38AM
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He might have been thinking that cost reducers automatically increase the value of X, and that casting BSZ while arcane melee it out will automatically make X = 2 or more. A lot of new players see it that way.
Luckily, that's not how it works.
Rules Advisor Please autocard: [c ]Disenchant[/c ] = Disenchant .
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