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8 months ago ::
Oct 05, 2012 - 9:12PM
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So, Imaginary creatures kinda suck. I think I might scrap that idea. But I still need a gimmick right? Then I thought back to coins. Coins were a good gimmick, but they were parasitic and they don't fit Mathset quite well enough. Well, how about Variables? 1. Each player begins the game with a Variable of 0. 2. Any player may subtract 1 from his or her Variable at any time. 3. Variables cannot go below 0. Now, what good is a Variable? Here are my thoughts - obviously: X. 4a. You may subtract 1 from your Variable at any time to add  to your mana pool. Spend this mana only to cast X spells. But, that seems rather parasitic as well. I could alter it to this: 4b. You may subtract 1 from your Variable at any time to add to your mana pool. But that seems slightly boring. Doesn't it? What if it were the opposite of Infect? 4c. You may add 1 to your Variable at any time to add to your mana pool. 4d. If you have a Variable of 10 or more target opponent wins the game. Like Poison counters that are kinda useful. And creatures wouldn't really have a Variable-infect. It would be more like effects of "Double target player's variable" or "If target player's variable becomes Seven or something" - of course, 4c is horribly broken probably. That is NINE free colourless mana right off the bat. I could say "Only one mana a turn" or something, but even then it is like a free Mox that starts on the battlefield and can't be removed or countered. So what is an effect that I could pair with 4d, that wouldn't break the game? 4e. You may add 1 to your Variable at any time to gain 1 life? That's a lot less broken right? I'm not really into life gain, but I like the idea of killing yourself mathematically to keep yourself alive physically. So right now, I'm thinking either just 4b. or a combination of 4d and 4e. Thoughts? Oh, yeah, e.g. 4b: TardomLand (U) ~ enters the battlefield tapped.  : Choose one; Add  to your mana pool; or Add one to your Variable. "The tar preserves even the most incorporeal of concepts."4de: Quantified Pain   Sorcery (U) ~ deals 5 damage to target opponent, then that player doubles his or her Variable. "I should've studied!"I'm also well aware that 4de would change Legacy and Vintage. I'm cool with it. Spice those formats up for once.
Whiny weenie and observant aren't the same thing pablo, somehow I thought you'd understand.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 05, 2012 - 10:43PM
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Eh, I'm not sure why you need to do something like this. The first version is obviously broken, and the second means "you start the game with 29 life unless you are playing a variable deck". Besides being just boring when variables aren't a thing, I don't think this is design space worth exploring.
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Okay, here is the clincher. I've been waiting to say this.
The "cam girl" this was inspired by was just a girl from a social networking website, Stickam. Her name was TinyTerror and she was just a regular girl who was on her webcam, totally unrelated to any type of adult content.
I hope you all feel really smart now. 
This is like someone coming into class with a bloody nose and everyone's like "Jeez what happened to you" and they're like "I ran into a wall" and everyone laughs at them for being an idiot but then at the end of the class they say "HAHA JUST KIDDING I PUNCHED MYSELF IN THE FACE!!!!!! TALK ABOUT OWNED HAHAHAHAHA"
I really enjoy imagining this from Kevin's perspective. Because in Kevin's world, Rosewater actually reads everything he types. Mark is sitting there right now, reading this, and thinking "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled. . ." Or some such. He chuckles low, then clicks on "The Best Of KEVINSET" and says "Yes, this'll do just fine. A busty lady with banding who deals direct damage to Zones!? Why this will be the star of my next set, and no one will ever believe you Kevin." Then he closes his Macbook, so his servant may move it out of the way, while another servant puts a Fetal Richard Garfield Clone lathered in Steak Sauce in front of him. Then Mark Feasts.
Sorin walked into the chamber where his newly wed bride, Vampy, awaited. A beam of moonlight illuminated his brilliant silver hair as he strode with confidence towards the bed. His shirtless body showcased his powerful abdominal muscles and he was wearing jeans with holes in the knees.
I wish more girls play magic cards...
Have you considered assassinating Kevin?
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8 months ago ::
Oct 06, 2012 - 3:10PM
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Okay. I'm not convinced that 4b is broken.
I suspect you'd like 4e more if it milled - but in reality I agree with you that it might change the Meta more than I intended. What is an alternative to this?
Life gain is beneficial to certain strategies, but useless to others.
How can I make something that effects all strategies equally? This is a very difficult task. Let me throw out some ideas. Perhaps I can inspire someone to have a better idea than I can.
4f. You may add 1 to your Variable at any time to put a random card from your hand on the bottom of your library, and then draw a card?
4g. You may add 1 to your Variable at any time to exchange the bottom card in your library with a card from outside the game?
4h. You may add 1 to your Variable at any time to gain Priority?
4i. You may add 1 to your Variable at any time to shuffle your library?
I could also change it to "You may add 1 to your Variable at the beginning of your upkeep" or something.
If I can't work it out, then I may just go with 4b. It is interesting enough I guess.
Whiny weenie and observant aren't the same thing pablo, somehow I thought you'd understand.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 06, 2012 - 4:12PM
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Weird
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8 months ago ::
Oct 06, 2012 - 4:29PM
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- UnCon Prizewinner 2008
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4h. You may add 1 to your Variable at any time to gain Priority?
this one made me laugh for some reason
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Ceci n'est pas une pipe.
This definitely doesn't mean what you think it means.
I was referring to the painting The Treachery of Images.
I know.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 06, 2012 - 7:39PM
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4h. You may add 1 to your Variable at any time to gain Priority?
this one made me laugh for some reason
Because you love it and think that I'm too clever for my own good?
Whiny weenie and observant aren't the same thing pablo, somehow I thought you'd understand.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 06, 2012 - 11:08PM
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I suspect you'd like 4e more if it milled
I like anyrything more if it mills.
4f. You may add 1 to your Variable at any time to put a random card from your hand on the bottom of your library, and then draw a card?
This is insane. Single handedly hoses mulliganing. Now that I think of it, hosing mulligans is cool so points for that. I think it's too good, if your hand is bad, you can use it and it will probably improve. Not to mention that when there is 1 card in your hand it lets you tutor for something in your library with a fairly low miss chance (obviously better for 4-ofs).
4g. You may add 1 to your Variable at any time to exchange the bottom card in your library with a card from outside the game?
I like this one. It seems useless, but it can be very relevant. This is the kind of effect I see working with this crazy variable idea. It kind of means that you will have your sideboard in your deck game 1 as well, which can be bad.
4h. You may add 1 to your Variable at any time to gain Priority?
NO, don't. Way too messy, it will be a nightmare for new players to understand and is just something way too weird, marginal and dangerous to play with.
4i. You may add 1 to your Variable at any time to shuffle your library?
This is fine as well. Constant shuffling can be very annoying though. This also makes fetchlands worse in legacy, interestingly enough. When are you benefitting from this, it's insane, when not, it's useless. The variance + annoyingness makes my verdict: nah.
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Okay, here is the clincher. I've been waiting to say this.
The "cam girl" this was inspired by was just a girl from a social networking website, Stickam. Her name was TinyTerror and she was just a regular girl who was on her webcam, totally unrelated to any type of adult content.
I hope you all feel really smart now.
This is like someone coming into class with a bloody nose and everyone's like "Jeez what happened to you" and they're like "I ran into a wall" and everyone laughs at them for being an idiot but then at the end of the class they say "HAHA JUST KIDDING I PUNCHED MYSELF IN THE FACE!!!!!! TALK ABOUT OWNED HAHAHAHAHA"
I really enjoy imagining this from Kevin's perspective. Because in Kevin's world, Rosewater actually reads everything he types. Mark is sitting there right now, reading this, and thinking "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled. . ." Or some such. He chuckles low, then clicks on "The Best Of KEVINSET" and says "Yes, this'll do just fine. A busty lady with banding who deals direct damage to Zones!? Why this will be the star of my next set, and no one will ever believe you Kevin." Then he closes his Macbook, so his servant may move it out of the way, while another servant puts a Fetal Richard Garfield Clone lathered in Steak Sauce in front of him. Then Mark Feasts.
Sorin walked into the chamber where his newly wed bride, Vampy, awaited. A beam of moonlight illuminated his brilliant silver hair as he strode with confidence towards the bed. His shirtless body showcased his powerful abdominal muscles and he was wearing jeans with holes in the knees.
I wish more girls play magic cards...
Have you considered assassinating Kevin?
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