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8 months ago  ::  Oct 05, 2012 - 6:57PM #1
magicpablo666
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Obviously, I've already proposed this first one, but there are a few original ideas.

Parity - As long as this creature's power is even/odd, effect.

E.g.

Elder Model
Artifact Creature - Drone (C)
Parity - As long as this creature's power is even, it has Flying and Hexproof.

"When it functions, it does so well."

3/3

Another:

Maximize - If you targeted X, effect.

That wasn't very clear, so let me elaborate via example.

Potential of Enmity
Instant (U)
Destroy one, two, or three target attacking creatures.
Maximize - If you targeted three creatures this way, exile them instead.

"The more the merrier."1

Okay, One more:

Matrix Cost - If you pay the Ability Cost, X becomes XX.

Loyal Blow
Sorcery (C)
Loyal Blow deals X deals X damage to target player, where X is the highest power amongst creatures you control.
Matrix Sacrifice a creature - If you pay Loyal Blow's Matrix cost X becomes XX.

I know this one is a little limited, but not as bad as Overload or Miracle right? But I plan on having a ton of X cards.

So, tell me if you like any of these or how you might change them, or the problems with them or whatever.



1. This may be replaced. I can see myself accidentally making this the flavour t for many of these. What can I say? My mind automatically goes to cliches.

May 8, 2013 -- 12:39PM, Decembra wrote:

Whiny weenie and observant aren't the same thing pablo, somehow I thought you'd understand.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 05, 2012 - 10:49PM #2
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Your first ability should care about hand sizes, because that allows more interaction with the normal flow of the game.. Your second ability should refer to costs, otherwise there's an extremely large difference between the minimal and maximal effects.. Your third ability escalates quickly, so you would have to prevent the players from setting the value X > 3, and numbers like 16 or 25 or 36 wouldn't make sense for most effects anyway..
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 06, 2012 - 5:48AM #3
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Oct 5, 2012 -- 10:49PM, cats_and_me wrote:

...and numbers like 16 or 25 or 36 wouldn't make sense for most effects anyway..




You realize his ability is "XX" not "X2" right? So, 16, 25, and 36 will never be a problem. You'll insted be looking at 256, 3125, 46656. I don't have much of a problem with a spell that deals 27 damage in one swoop...

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 06, 2012 - 7:11AM #4
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X^X escalates way too quickly I think.  No matter what effect you put it on, X=3 is going to turn the tables, and X=4 is probably going to win the game.  Gain 256 life, make 256 token creatures, mill 256 cards, the effect doesn't really matter.  Once you get to five or more, it gets stupidly strong.  X^2 is still really strong, but it progresses a bit more naturally.  Getting a 16/16 creature or dealing 25 damage isn't unheard of in regular Magic, and you don't get ludicrous numbers like 46656 just from a 6/6 creature.
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 06, 2012 - 7:14AM #5
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Emmy sac for 437893890380859375 damage?
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 06, 2012 - 11:25AM #6
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Do 27 damage would win the game instantly.

You might get away with X^2. Cards like Overgrown Battlement and the entire mechanic of creatures giving a global +1/+X boost is kinda quadratic already.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 06, 2012 - 1:08PM #7
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Oct 6, 2012 -- 11:25AM, bay_falconer wrote:


You might get away with X^2. Cards like Overgrown Battlement and the entire mechanic of creatures giving a global +1/+X boost is kinda quadratic already.




Yeah, I was instantly reminded of Gelatinous Genesis

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 06, 2012 - 2:51PM #8
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Okay fine. You guys are no fun. X2 it is. But I will make a highly parasitic card that allows other X2 spells to become XX spells - just for the sake of making people laugh. Come on, and tell me you wouldn't be amused if Qmark's scenario went off in your face.

And Cats_and_Me, no to hand size. It has been done. And I'm not sure what you mean about the second ability. Like make 'em X spells? I'm not sure the set will need even more of those.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 06, 2012 - 4:12PM #9
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Mathematics-based set, you say?

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At the beginning of your upkeep, put a 0/0 Set creature token onto the battlefield.

Axiom of Infinity
Enchantment -- Axiom
At the beginning of your upkeep, put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.

Axiom of Choice
Enchantment -- Axiom
You choose the targets for all spells and abilities.
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 06, 2012 - 9:24PM #10
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